{"id":9964,"date":"2019-03-04T01:05:07","date_gmt":"2019-03-04T01:05:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2019\/03\/04\/srr-rolls-length\/"},"modified":"2019-03-04T01:05:07","modified_gmt":"2019-03-04T01:05:07","slug":"srr-rolls-length","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2019\/03\/04\/srr-rolls-length\/","title":{"rendered":"SRR \/rolls length"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI wonder what the math says your roll length should look like with the SRR that you have after rolling 5,000 or more rolls in practice . I feel that some think that it would be normal to go way past what your SRR is .<br \/>\n\tSay your SRR is 7.0 which is great . Then you roll the dice and are on your 15 th roll . Which is ALREADY 2Xs your SRR . Do you think that is normal or what ? By know you should be ahead right ? Do you expect to go to 3,4 or even 5 times your SRR ? Or are you thinking of the long game and believe that this is a one time think and it will end soon . Or do you just not count the rolls and wish that it sets the new record ?<br \/>\n\tOr do you hit the machines and get MAD if you never make it passed your SRR ? <br \/>\n\tI don&#8217;t bother to much  with the SRR thing when at the casinos .For one reason like the roll were I first tried come betting that roll had a lot of 7s in it ,like 7 or 8 with 7 being come out 7s . I may be wrong but it was below 7 .<br \/>\n\tDuring that roll I thought that I was lucky that they came on the come out since I was not setting for them . <br \/>\n\tMaybe the math guys can add to this just a few good thoughts . Thank You .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> bminus1 on March 4, 2019, 1:57 am<\/p>\n<div>Dan Pronovost did some detailed studies using the Smart Craps simulator on hand\/roll lengths in the ARTICLE: <!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.goldentouchcraps.com\/article.php?p=CrappyMath\/math0004.shtml\">https:\/\/www.goldentouchcraps.com\/articl &#8230; 0004.shtml<\/a><!-- m -->   Please note that this ARTICLE is not a post, but an ARTICLE.  Check it out &#8211; you maybe surprised what the math shows.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on March 4, 2019, 5:41 am<\/p>\n<div>I read this article awhile back .It was good to read it again tho . I just wanted to see what others thought about this . When you read this it seems to make money you would take 3 0r 4 wins right away and then limit your loosess ?????<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling . \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on March 4, 2019, 3:29 pm<\/p>\n<div>There was a guy, maybe he is still alive that I used to teach with at the camp that I started with. He would tell me before he shot to take down my bets after his 7th roll of the dice &#8211; if he got there &#8211; because he never rolled longer than 7. <\/p>\n<p>\tYour SRR is like a 300 hitter. That hitter was up to the plate 7 times and he didn&#8217;t get a hit. Does that mean that the next 3X&#8217;s he will get a hit and if we could we should bet a million on that fact? No. It just means that for the season he is batting 300. <\/p>\n<p>\tSame with your SRR of 7. You could have a 5 hand roll, then a 2, then 4 than a 17 for a total of 28 rolls in 4 tries giving you a SRR of 7 in that session. That is why betting is the key to making money. You need to keep your bets to the lowest house edge. <\/p>\n<p>\tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on March 4, 2019, 9:21 pm<\/p>\n<div>Dom, that is so right on.  In your example three out of your 4 times with the dice, the results were very short rolls but the long long roll brought you back.  As your said making bets with the house&#8217;s lowest edge you lost very little money, and the final roll of 17 brought you back.  <\/p>\n<p>\tWe know that many times Rose and Doc can have a short roll (let&#8217;s say under 10 rolls) with 3 or 4  sevens but all but the final 7 were come out rolls.  Not only do we win on the come out 7&#8217;s but we may very well have a 2 or 3 pay days putting chips in the rail and only have 1 or 2 bets on the table at the final 7 out.  Did we win much&#8211;of course not but WE DID NOT LOSE MONEY!!! <br \/>\n\tAs NFF says you lose less so you can win more.<\/p>\n<p>\tSee everyone in Memphis in a couple of weeks.<\/p>\n<p>\tRose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wonder what the math says your roll length should look like with the SRR that you have after rolling 5,000 or more rolls in practice . 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