{"id":9944,"date":"2019-01-21T18:45:04","date_gmt":"2019-01-21T18:45:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2019\/01\/21\/getting-a-good-grip-on-the-dice-with-itac2\/"},"modified":"2019-01-21T18:45:04","modified_gmt":"2019-01-21T18:45:04","slug":"getting-a-good-grip-on-the-dice-with-itac2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2019\/01\/21\/getting-a-good-grip-on-the-dice-with-itac2\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting a Good Grip on the Dice with iTac2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nBecause of arthritic hands, it comes and goes, I struggle with the 3 finger grip because of my thumb, which is turned a bit sideways. At my last GTC class, NoFieldFive (NFF) gave me a close look at his grip. NFF grips the dice at the uppermost edge, using only his fingertips. It would solve my thumb problem, but getting a decent grip while touching so little of the dice left me with often losing my grip, during practice. The dice would fall out before I finished my swing.<\/p>\n<p>\tWell, I found the solution, but you can\u2019t laugh.<\/p>\n<p>\tI remembered from my youthful golfing days that we often used a spray that would give us a good grip on the golf club, even with sweaty hands. Gloves, of course, were an option, but, man, it gets hot in the south &#8211; gloves were not a good idea in the summer. With that memory, I searched for a \u201cgrip enhancer\u201d. I ordered numerous different products, and found four (4) types: (1) chalk based, (2) antiperspirant, (3) rosin based, and (4) made with beeswax.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe chalk based products are used by gymnasts for gripping bars. It dries quickly and leaves a white powdery thin layer. It lets the user firmly grip without slipping. For dice, however, I need to use a light touch. This helped a little, but not enough.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe reason I considered an antiperspirant is because I knew of some Craps players that would spray antiperspirant on their hands and fingers before going into the casino. Of course, I could get a travel sized solid antiperspirant and keep it in my pocket while I was at a table. This works well, but, at least in Vegas, I already have a problem with split and bleeding fingers from dry Vegas desert air. Not a preferred solution for me.<\/p>\n<p>\tNow the rosin based &#8211; there\u2019s a grip enhancement! Rosin is used universally by violinists to give the bow strings a grip as it slides across the violin strings. But rosin, in its natural state as a cake (or block), is harder than soap. Rubbing fingers on a rosin cake gets nothing. The finger grip products dissolve rosin in alcohol, sometimes light oil. It came in a hand pump that sprays easily on fingers. The result is tremendous gripping power, but too much. Even with the light touch, the dice would stick to my fingertips &#8211; not what I\u2019m after. Removal requires serious scrubbing with soap, or alcohol.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe fourth product works perfectly. It\u2019s easy to carry in my pocket. I rub a little around with my fingertips and it dries within 30 seconds with no odor, and it\u2019s transparent. It gives me the perfect grip on the very top of the dice. It doesn\u2019t dry out my fingers and even seals in the moisture. It comes off with a little soap and water. Too much of it does cause sticking. A little goes a long way. It\u2019s the preferred product by pole dancers &#8211; you know, for fitness. It\u2019s based on beeswax. It\u2019s called iTac2. The container says, \u201cExtra Strength Pole Fitness Strength\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\tAnd, boy, my dice grouping looks good. Thanks, NFF.<\/p>\n<p>\tI\u2019ll be at the class in Atlantic City, May 3-5. I\u2019ll bring some with me so you can see.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MasterBlaster on January 22, 2019, 3:50 pm<\/p>\n<div>Preacher, great research on these products.  I just went to the web site https:itrac2 and saw all their products. Is the one that you use similar to a deodorant stick?  If it is I&#8217;ll place an order and give it a try.  I&#8217;ve tried a number of products for the same issue (dice kept slipping) and found that rosin powder worked well.  The rosin powder that I use is in a 4oz plastic container made by Mueller Sports Medicine Inc and is a tan colored gritty powder. I find that a little goes a long way and just a touch on my middle finger and thumb is all I need.  I found a contact lens case at the grocery store for $1.49 to carry the rosin, this works great and I can even place it on the drink rail at the craps table. Little Debbie and I will probably be in the May class in AC and look forward to seeing you again.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tMasterBlaster<br \/>\n\tTom<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> getagrip on January 22, 2019, 6:48 pm<\/p>\n<div>Another one to try maybe is called Dry Hands. Found it on Amazon. Have used it for a couple of years and I like it. Does not wash off if you need to wash your hands. Kind of a thicker liquid. Like the others, a little goes a long way or it does get sticky if you use too much. It is clear but I would suggest application and dry time away from the tables and cameras.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Preacher on January 22, 2019, 7:49 pm<\/p>\n<div>For the iTac2, I have the one that looks like a small deodorant stick, and another one that is a small jar, 2\u201d diameter, 1\u201d deep, containing 20mg. I bought both on Amazon. The small jar is easier to reach in my pocket, but I use the stick version at home.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cDry Hands\u201d is one of the products I tried. It\u2019s a liquid chalk product. I don\u2019t like it for 2 reasons: it gives a chalky white look on my fingers, and it did not help my grip enough. I find the iTrac2 beeswax product works perfectly &#8211; it\u2019s transparent on my fingers, and it gives my fingertips a great grip without being sticky on the dice.<\/p>\n<p>\tHere are the products I tried, along with the description on the product:<\/p>\n<p>\t1) \u201cGrip Boost\u201d, sweat proof tacky grip golf spray (hand pump). To clean off, clean surfaces with rubbing alcohol. From their website, it\u2019s a clear, polymer gel.<\/p>\n<p>\t2) \u201cDry Hands\u201d, the ultimate gripping solution, a non-sticky solution for activities that require dry hands. Chalk based, SD alcohol 40, silica, methyl glycol. To remove, wash with soap and warm water.<\/p>\n<p>\t3) \u201cCramer Firm Grip\u201d anti-slip spray. Improves grip, natural rosin formula. For a firm grip even when hands are wet or sweaty. Contains Isopropyl alcohol, n-butane, propane, rosin, fragrance. Remove with alcohol.<\/p>\n<p>\t4) \u201cSpider Tack\u201d competition grade. A super sticky paste for improving grip on Atlas Stones. Clean with baby oil or degreaser. Note: This was the stickiest of them all. With this stuff, there is no letting go! There is a light version that I did not try.<\/p>\n<p>\t5) \u201ciTac2 Stick\u201d Extra Pole Fitness Grip in a 12g size, and \u201ciTac2\u201d in a small jar. A sports grip designed to increase your hand and body\u2019s to grip to your fitness equipment, allowing you to use less pressure for improved precision and performance. Water repellent. Australian Organic beeswax, N\/R isoparrafin, esters, coffee vanilla aroma.<\/p>\n<p>\tMy much preferred product is either of the two sizes in item (5).<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Because of arthritic hands, it comes and goes, I struggle with the 3 finger grip because of my thumb, which is turned a bit sideways. 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