{"id":99,"date":"2012-01-08T20:03:10","date_gmt":"2012-01-08T20:03:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/01\/08\/frank-teaches-a-valuable-lesson-in-dice-control-by-stickman\/"},"modified":"2012-01-08T20:03:10","modified_gmt":"2012-01-08T20:03:10","slug":"frank-teaches-a-valuable-lesson-in-dice-control-by-stickman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/01\/08\/frank-teaches-a-valuable-lesson-in-dice-control-by-stickman\/","title":{"rendered":"Frank teaches a valuable lesson in dice control by Stickman"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nGenerally when we think of Frank Scoblete, we picture him as an author who brings us great original ideas, many from the Captain, and the writer who praises accomplished individuals and players in the craps community such as the Arm, Dominator and other great GTC shooters. Every instructor who works with him knows that Frank enjoys the acclaim these individuals have achieved through GTC and more important through their great performances in the casinos and in teaching. <\/p>\n<p>\tFrank has said he enjoys writing about great casino players not just in craps but in all the games. He has also helped many writers get book deals, columnist and contributor deals as well. <\/p>\n<p>\tBut most of us tend to forget that Frank is one of the best shooters in the world. Dominator makes a point at the \u201cMeet and Greets\u201d that Frank is the best shooter. Frank disagrees with Dominator\u2019s assessment and names Dominator and me, but we could debate this forever. <\/p>\n<p>\tSo why do we forget his skill? Why aren\u2019t we noticing what he has done for over 20 years? <\/p>\n<p>\tIn our recent visit to AC to celebrate the Goddess and Skinny\u2019s birthdays, we played for three days. Frank took the dice only seven times in those three days. His rolls were 3, 4, 12, 13, 17, 24 and 30. These are decent numbers for sure but what the numbers don\u2019t tell us is more important. <\/p>\n<p>\tFirst, you can see that Frank doesn\u2019t feel he must shoot every session. He shoots when he figures he\u2019ll be good \u2013 and he usually is. So many players see him sitting at the table with the Five Horsemen just betting and not shooting. Frank picks his spots and he doesn\u2019t need to shoot a lot to make money. He\u2019s usually the first one to quit a session. <\/p>\n<p>\tFive of the seven rolls were winners \u2013 two were huge winners if you bet just how Frank bet. You see Frank is the ultimate on-axis shooter. He sets the 3V and goes after the 6\u2019s and 8\u2019s. While we all like monster rolls and Frank has had many of these including an 89, it is the \u201crepeating number\u201d rolls which are the long-term money makers and great on-axis shooters are the ones who do this time and again. That\u2019s Frank. <\/p>\n<p>\tHis 24 and 30 rolls were back-to-back. Frank had gotten up at 4AM, called me, and we got to the empty table at 4:44. <\/p>\n<p>\tFrank took the dice and immediately went on a tear. This was his 30 roll and he hammered the 6 and hit the 8 as well. I am guessing that almost half his numbers were 6 and maybe five were 8\u2019s. He also made five points. Since he bets about $150 to $300 per number, the profits grew. <\/p>\n<p>\tHis 24 roll was just as spectacular. In one stretch he had $300 each on the 6 and 8. His point was a 6. Most players would move the $300 or break it up to put some behind the 6 pass line bet. Frank put the odds behind the bet but kept the place bet of the 6 at $300. So he had $440 riding on his shooting. (It was a 5X odds game with a $15 line bet allowing $125 in odds on the 6 and 8.) <\/p>\n<p>\tHe immediately made his point of 6 and got paid on both the pass line and the place bet. Then he established another 6 as his point and again immediately made his point of 6 getting paid on the pass line and the place bet. <\/p>\n<p>\tA few rolls later, having made his pass line bet of 4, Frank had another 6 as the pass line point and hit it again just as he did above. <\/p>\n<p>\tWe were playing at an empty table but that didn\u2019t mean there weren\u2019t possible distractions. A group of five tipsy kids were hanging over the end of the table by the back wall watching, moving their arms and heads as they talked so that there was a constant movement at that end of the table. That would disrupt many shooters. It didn\u2019t bother Frank one iota. I remember once at a casino in Vegas there were three players at the end of the table with stacks of chips on the line, with stacks behind as odds and each with a pass line bet for the dealers with odds on those as well. To hit his spot, Frank had a very small opening in the chips. He rolled a 23 never once hitting a chip. <\/p>\n<p>\tIn my analysis of on-axis throws for <em>Cutting Edge Craps: Advanced Strategies for Serious Players <\/em>the computer simulations and SmartCraps results showed that large numbers of rolls are not the key variable in being a great shooter. If you can hit the numbers you are setting for at an extremely high rate, you will win a lot of money. Rolls in the single digits can bring in the profits. <\/p>\n<p>\tSo Frank took the dice seven times in three days and five of those were medium to immense winners. <\/p>\n<p>\tThat is a valuable lesson to be learned for the rest of us. <\/p>\n<p>\tJerry<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<p>No replies were posted for this topic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Generally when we think of Frank Scoblete, we picture him as an author who brings us great original ideas, many from the Captain, and the writer who praises accomplished individuals and players in the craps community such as the Arm,&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-99","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gtc-wisdom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=99"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=99"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=99"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=99"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}