{"id":9896,"date":"2018-10-28T14:38:42","date_gmt":"2018-10-28T14:38:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2018\/10\/28\/does-the-five-count-work\/"},"modified":"2018-10-28T14:38:42","modified_gmt":"2018-10-28T14:38:42","slug":"does-the-five-count-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2018\/10\/28\/does-the-five-count-work\/","title":{"rendered":"Does the five count work?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHad several successful times at the table using the five count but one stands out in my mind.  When any player does not make the five count I put a $1 chip in my pocket so that at the end of a given session I know how many shooters did not make the five count.  One example stands out in my mind.<\/p>\n<p>\tWent down early and found the following situation.  Two GTC players at SL 1 and 2, one random roller at the end of the table SR, and 2 random rollers at SR 1 and 2.  The GTC player at SL 1 had the dice and as I was getting my money out of my pocket when he made his point with the 2nd roll that I witnessed.  Since it was a break in the action, I bought in.  He established a new point and had a 7 out when I placed a come bet out on the 1st roll after he completed the five count.  I am now up $10.  One successful use of the 5 count.  The GTC student at SL 2 did not make the 5 count.  Now i have 2 successful uses of the 5 count.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe random roller at the end of the table  SR did not make the 5 count.  Both random rollers at the SR 1 and 2 did not make the 5 count.  That brings me up to 5 successful uses of the 5 count.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe GTC student at SL 1 did not make the five count.  I now have 6 successful uses of the 5 count.<\/p>\n<p>\tAll the players but the GTC young men at SL 1 and 2 and me left the table.  I headed to SL 1 not to roll as I am right handed, but to save a place for Rose.  At this point I have not made a bet except for the $10 come bet which I won.  The GTC player at SL2 not only made the 5 count, but rolled the dice 22 times banging out 6&#8217;s and 8&#8217;s all over the place with some 5&#8217;s, 9&#8217;s, 4&#8217;s and 10&#8217;s throw in for good measure.  <\/p>\n<p>\tI colored up with a $400 profit.  <\/p>\n<p>\tSince my bet on random rollers is a $10 come bet with $10 in odds, if multiplied by the 6 successful uses of the 5 count, I did not lose $120 I would normally bet on them should they make the five count.  That&#8217;s 6 times $20!   <\/p>\n<p>\tI will say the the 2 GTC players at SL1 and 2 had shots that were looking good, just the very short rolls that occasionally we all make from time to time.   So I was prepared to bet on them when the time came.  <\/p>\n<p>\tI know this is a very small sample, but I estimate that I had a minimum of 25 shooters not making the 5 count during the time in AC for a large savings.  <\/p>\n<p>\tBottom line&#8211;YES the 5 count does work.  <\/p>\n<p>\tDoc<\/p>\n<p>\tP.S.  As a reminder, your GTC manual has a couple of pages of explanation of the 5 count on page 36 &amp; 37.  Hope this is helpful!&#8230;. Rose<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mista&#8217;Bone on October 28, 2018, 3:26 pm<\/p>\n<div>thanks for sharing Doc<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MrPiP on October 29, 2018, 5:37 pm<\/p>\n<div>Nice read. well said.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Green Ghost on October 30, 2018, 1:38 am<\/p>\n<div>Since the seminar weekend I have been at my local casinos as well as the ones in AC and found the 5 count to save me a lot of money over the use of place bets.  I haven&#8217;t gone more than about once a week, and don&#8217;t stay long when I do go.  But when I do, I find the 5 count help me avoid  losing money quickly. It still gives some action, but not on short rolls.  When I do make a bet I keep waiting to collect 3x, but that really hasn&#8217;t happened.  The shooters 7-out before I collect 3 times.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on October 30, 2018, 11:48 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;Green Ghost&quot; wrote:<\/strong> Since the seminar weekend I have been at my local casinos as well as the ones in AC and found the 5 count to save me a lot of money over the use of place bets.  I haven&#8217;t gone more than about once a week, and don&#8217;t stay long when I do go.  But when I do, I find the 5 count help me avoid  losing money quickly. It still gives some action, but not on short rolls.  When I do make a bet I keep waiting to collect 3x, but that really hasn&#8217;t happened.  The shooters 7-out before I collect 3 times.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tCollecting 3X for the conservative approach is rarely going to happen unless you get LUCKY and are at a table when a random roller has a bog roll.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe5-count is there to do what it did for you and Doc &#8211; <span style=\"font-size: 16px\"><span style=\"color: #0040FF\">SAVE YOU MONEY!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Had several successful times at the table using the five count but one stands out in my mind. When any player does not make the five count I put a $1 chip in my pocket so that at the end&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9896","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9896","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/26"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9896"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9896\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9896"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9896"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9896"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}