Posted by:<\/strong> getagrip on September 13, 2018, 3:00 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> TheUsualSuspect on September 13, 2018, 3:06 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Preacher on September 14, 2018, 4:56 pm<\/p>\n \tSome casinos pay 30 to 1 for the Small or Tall with an HA of 18.30%, 150 to 1 for the All with an HA of 20.61%. Other casinos pay 34 to 1 for the Small or Tall with an HA of 7.76% and pay 170 for the All with an HA of 7.47%. Obviously, casinos of the latter are better bets, but that\u2019s still a huge HA. The HA on 30-1 and 150-1 casinos is just insulting. Slots are a better game than that kind of HA.<\/p>\n \tPreacher noticed that Dr Crapology is fond of writing in 3rd person, which Preacher knows is difficult (ha). Preacher saw that Dr Crapology slips up now and then and writes in 1st person, or so I\u2019m told.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on September 14, 2018, 9:44 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> NofieldFive on September 15, 2018, 1:58 pm<\/p>\n \tI am having a problem with your math, unless I am missing something here, which is entirely possible.<\/p>\n The number of times $15 lost since he did not make the Small, Tall or All—185 x $15= a loss of $2775 \n\tWhen you win a Small or a Tall with a $5 bet, you should win $5 x 35 = $175 for each Small or Tall hit. Less $10 for the other 2 bets lost. That leaves $165 each time you won the S or T. You hit it 12 times for a total win on the Small or Tall of 12 x $165 = $1980.<\/p>\n \tFor the All you should win $5 x 175 = $875 plus $175 for the small and $175 for the tall for a total win on the All of $1225. You hit the All 3 times which gives you a total win on All of $3675.<\/p>\n \tTotals for the bet. \tRespectfully,<\/p>\n \tNFF<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on September 16, 2018, 9:31 pm<\/p>\n \tI did do some rethinking and did a re do on some of the math. I did lose money on the STA bet during the time I was recording the results. However I did make money on the regular Pass Line and Come Bets that I made. <\/p>\n \tI made a audit of the STA record and found this. I did lose all 3 bets on the STA a total of 185 times. However I only made the All only 1 (not 3 times) and the Small OR Tall 3 times (not 12 times). Don’t know where the 12 came from concerning the wins on the Small and Tall only. <\/p>\n \tNot only does the Hard way set protect me from the 7 but it protects from the craps and "yo" bets. I know that I often make all the box numbers but roll a lot fewer of the 2, 3 11, and 12. <\/p>\n \tAgain thank you for taking the time to correct what I posted. I can assure you that I was not offended in any way.<\/p>\n \tRose and I look forward to seeing you in the casinos soon.<\/p>\n \tDoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Big Bad Dad on September 17, 2018, 4:54 am<\/p>\n \tBBD<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on September 17, 2018, 5:33 am<\/p>\n \tCongratulations on having a good trip.<\/p>\n \tI think you may be missing the point of this post. The house edge on those wagers is either over 7% or in the 18%-20% range depending on the payout. The big red carries a house edge of 16.67%. When you try to hedge your high house edge wager with another high house wager you are not improving your chances of winning, you are only increasing the edge against you.<\/p>\n \tIf you continue making these high house edge bets you are not likely to have a net win of money on those bets in the long run.<\/p>\n \tThat was what Doc was trying to point out by keeping track of how he did on these wagers in practice over time albeit not a long enough time to be mathematically significant.<\/p>\n \tWith his latest numbers it looks like he made the STA bet 189 times. He hit the All 1 time and the Small or Tall 3 times. While he did hit the wager a few times he still ended up losing money.<\/p>\n \tTotals for the bet. \tIf you are good (or lucky) enough to overcome bets with double digit house edges, imagine how well you could do against wagers that carry a 1.4% (pass\/come) or 1.5% (place 6\/8) house edge.<\/p>\n \tIt may seem like a challenge to beat the odds and exciting to win one of these exotic wagers. But a serious advantage player does not try for a challenge or excitement. He makes wagers where he has an advantage.<\/p>\n \tDid you notice where Doc said, <\/p>\n I did lose money on the STA bet during the time I was recording the results. However I did make money on the regular Pass Line and Come Bets that I made.\n\t<\/p><\/blockquote>\n \n\tAn advantage player plays a boring game for the following reason:<\/p>\n \t Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on September 17, 2018, 11:14 am<\/p>\n \tGlad you had a successful trip. <\/p>\n \tPlease do remember in making a trip report, one of the Dom’s most important items to remember is that we never, never, never mention the name of a casino. We can say while in Kansas City, Vegas, Albuquerque or other location, we hit a casino and did well. <\/p>\n \tI know when I first started with GTC, I mentioned a casino name in error and was corrected. <\/p>\n \tSo to all on this board, please keep this in mind as you make a post concerning a trip. We do love to read success stories.<\/p>\n \tRose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on September 17, 2018, 12:14 pm<\/p>\n \tPlease people NO NAMES OF CASINOS!<\/p>\n \tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Big Bad Dad on September 17, 2018, 2:50 pm<\/p>\n \tI don’t make a habit of betting the sucker bets, any of them. This trip was a rare occasion, where both my dad and I were having crazy long rolls. So we gave it a shot. I would suggest to most people out there, stay away from it. <\/p>\n \tBBD<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on October 4, 2018, 11:32 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on October 18, 2018, 3:45 am<\/p>\n Over the past several years, the casinos have been adding "special wagers" in order to encourage people to play the the game such as craps, blackjack, pai gow poker, 3 card poker, let it ride and many more–too many to…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9859","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9859","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/26"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9859"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9859\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9859"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9859"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9859"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
\n\tThe number of times I made only the Small or Tall (winning 1 bet and losing 2) this happened 12 times–12 x $35=a win of $420 minus 12 x $10 (the 2 losing bets)=$120 equals a net win of $300.
\n\tThe number of times I make the All 3 x$175 = a win of $525. Making the All means you also made the Small and the Tall. So 3 times $35 for the Small ($105)and 3 times $35 for the Tall ($105)equals $210. Total win on all three bets $735. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n
\n\t No Win -$2775<\/span>
\n\t Small or Tall $1980
\n\t All $3675
\n\t Net Win $2880<\/p>\n
\n\tNo Win -$2775<\/span>
\n\tSmall or Tall $495
\n\tAll $1225
\n\tNet Loss $1055<\/span> <\/p>\n![\"\"](\"http:\/\/i67.tinypic.com\/4vrfxf.jpg\")
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