{"id":9757,"date":"2018-02-20T12:40:16","date_gmt":"2018-02-20T12:40:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2018\/02\/20\/golden-touch-is-immoral\/"},"modified":"2018-02-20T12:40:16","modified_gmt":"2018-02-20T12:40:16","slug":"golden-touch-is-immoral","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2018\/02\/20\/golden-touch-is-immoral\/","title":{"rendered":"Golden Touch is immoral"},"content":{"rendered":"


\nHi all<\/p>\n

\tYou guys know that we have many videos on YouTube and I get comments about them all the time. Most are thanking us, and some are not. Well I think I have heard it all now – Golden Touch is immoral. Take a look at this posting and my response and tell me how you would have responded. I think you will get as big or a laugh as I did:<\/p>\n

\n\tJohn Smith
\n\t1 day ago
\n\tI work in a casino ,you really shouldn’t be doing this its highly immoral and will soon be illegal\ufeff<\/p>\n

\n\tGolden Touch Craps
\n\t1 day ago
\n\t:)))) – Highly immoral – setting and throwing dice is immoral – Now I have heard everything! illegal – Never – Now I do think that some casinos might eventually really might enforce the rules of the game
\n\tDom\ufeff<\/p>\n

\n\tJohn Smith
\n\t19 hours ago
\n\tGolden Touch Craps its immoral!! its sick I don’t agree with what you’re doing ,you just can’t play god with dice. chance and probability are gods design yet you seek to control it wield it like an axe and smash our temples to dust?!? not on my watch sonny ,if I see you in my casino I’ll be reporting you I’ll be watching you\ufeff<\/p>\n

\n\tGolden Touch Craps
\n\t2 seconds ago
\n\tAgain I have to laugh! Because you don’t agree, we are immoral. God’s design – I have had many people say that you can not change the outcome of the dice, which is false and can be proven mathematically, but changing God’s design and smashing temples to dust – well I need to ask my priest how to answer that. You do know, well maybe you don’t, that you sound just a little bit ……
\n\tDom<\/p>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Beancounter1959 on February 20, 2018, 12:59 pm<\/p>\n

\u201cLet he that is without sin among you, cast the first stone."<\/p>\n

\tI couldn’t resist!<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on February 20, 2018, 2:21 pm<\/p>\n

Is it moral for casinos to set the house edge at 20+% on some of their wagers? How does he justify working for an entity that gouges the unwitting public?<\/p>\n

\tGTC is doing a public service by trying to educate people and give them a fighting chance against an industry that is truly immoral. <\/p>\n

\tIf Mr. Smith were a righteous individual he would quit working for the actual immoral organization and join GTC!!!<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on February 20, 2018, 2:47 pm<\/p>\n

Jesus expelled the merchants and money changers from the Temple, accusing them of turning the Temple into "a den of thieves" through their commercial activities.<\/p>\n

\tGTC tries to right the wrongs the casinos perpetrate on the public. <\/p>\n

\tGTC is attempting to bring down the \u201cden of thieves\u201d who are taking advantage of the people. Golden Touch Craps is the righteous one trying to do God\u2019s work. <\/p>\n

\tIf dice, chance and probability are God\u2019s design, it is the casinos that are destroying His design. They should make their payouts on the \u201ctrue odds\u201d as He designed them.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on February 20, 2018, 2:51 pm<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s find out where \u201cMr. Smith\u201d works and do a road trip!!!<\/p>\n

\tCome on, it\u2019ll be great!!,
\n\t \ud83d\ude06<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> DoughBoy on February 20, 2018, 3:21 pm<\/p>\n

Dom: You answered him like a true gentleman. The new medication must be working. It took a long time to travel from the ankle to the brain. But, just like the dice, it takes some patience. LOL<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Wirenut on February 21, 2018, 12:06 pm<\/p>\n

I love the "I’ll be watching you, I’ll be reporting you". Um, it’s a Casino, between table and floor employees, never mind the eye in the sky, I am always being watched and, if I am winning large sums of $$$, you’ll be damn sure someone is reporting it. <\/p>\n

\tWay to keep a measured response, Dom. I love how he claims GTC is immoral for allowing me to come and learn how to tilt the odds in my favor as if casinos aren’t immoral for letting me come into the stone towers and easily give away my money in some instances. I searched out GTC for classes. I voluntarily chose to pay GTC for it’s services. I took the Primer and enjoyed it so much that I am eagerly awaiting April for GTC\/AC for my refresher. No where along the way have I felt pressured by GTC to give you my money or had I felt taken advantage of. If I did, I certainly would not come back for more. <\/p>\n

\tI see a lot of people who don’t necessarily agree with the concept of Dice Setting. That’s their prerogative. I choose to believe there’s something more to it and the math does prove it out. Just because "John Smith" can’t wrap their brain around it doesn’t make it wrong.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on February 21, 2018, 12:38 pm<\/p>\n

Dom, so glad that you posted this. It has proved to be humorous and a lot of fun. Rose and Doc will continue to help those interested in having success in the casinos. We love GTC. Seems like we once heard that "Winning Is The Most Fun." <\/p>\n

\tLook forward to seeing everyone soon.<\/p>\n

\tRose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on February 21, 2018, 1:17 pm<\/p>\n

Mr Smith’s reply to me yesterday:<\/p>\n

\tJohn Smith
\n\t22 hours ago
\n\tGolden Touch Craps after reading your reasoned explanation I have no alternative but to do a full 180 degree mind change , I will now watch you’re videos to learn how to do this myself thanks & sorry in equal measure.\ufeff<\/p>\n

\tI thanked him and actually asked if he was sincere<\/p>\n

\tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on February 22, 2018, 7:13 pm<\/p>\n

Dom I never thought that what you preach would change people so much with not even seeing you or your classes . \ud83d\ude42 \ud83d\ude42
\n\tJust keep up the great job that you and all GTCs do . \ud83d\ude00 \ud83d\ude42
\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00 \ud83d\ude09<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> sevenout on February 23, 2018, 5:45 am<\/p>\n

I wonder how Mr Smith feels about Edward Thorpe? Same concept, different game.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on February 23, 2018, 12:41 pm<\/p>\n

Thanks Finisher!<\/p>\n

\tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Preacher on February 23, 2018, 8:37 pm<\/p>\n

As to the morality of the GTC mission to make us each winners, I\u2019ll quote from the Lord\u2019s parable, \u201cThe one who had received the $5000 came up and brought another $5000, saying, \u2018Master, you entrusted $5000 to me. See, I have gained another $5000.\u2019 His master said to him, \u2018Well done, good and faithful servant.\u201d Matthew 25:20-21.<\/p>\n

\tNow that I can put down a $500 or $1000 buy-in and leave with triple that, GTC has helped me be a good and faithful servant (that\u2019s how my wife, RTR4Ever, explained it). Oh, and I tithe on my winnings. As a matter of fact, I asked my pastor if he would accept the tithes on my \u201cfilthy lucre\u201d? He said, \u201cYes, we love winners at our church.\u201d<\/p>\n

\tIf anything, GTC has made us MORE moral by being better stewards of our hard earned resources.<\/p>\n

\tTo the casinos I say, \u201cDo not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to do it.\u201d Proverbs 3:27. It is funny that a casino worker would at first think that it is probably illegal for a patron to actually make money, actually consistently be a winner.<\/p>\n

\tI\u2019ll just take this opportunity to quote one more scripture. When Dom, Doc, Rose, and all of the instructors teach us how to grip and throw the dice well, they are fulfilling a proverb: \u201cA slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich.\u201c Proverbs 10:4. Couldn\u2019t be more moral. <\/p>\n

\tThus endeth the sermon.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on February 23, 2018, 8:49 pm<\/p>\n

Preach!<\/p>\n

\tGreat sermon, brother!<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on February 24, 2018, 1:28 am<\/p>\n

My wife got in a discussion with a good Southern Baptist member in our small town in Arkansas about gambling and he insisted his church wouldn’t accept contributions from its members. We were amused by this as the last time we had been to Tunica on a trip the local bank sponsored, we were the only non Baptist on the bus.<\/p>\n

\tShe was having this discussion at a luncheon for the Local Lions in the basement of the methodist church, so she grabbed the minister who was a member and asked him what the Methist position was. <\/p>\n

\tHis reply was basically, I believe we can use the money better than others could.<\/p>\n

\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on February 25, 2018, 5:27 pm<\/p>\n

Full discloser – Posted yesterday – So after my response Mr Smith said this <\/p>\n

\t John Smith
\n\tGolden Touch Craps sorry for late reply ,the casino’s and the gambling industry are corrupt and morally bankrupt ,I’m based in the UK and its a pseudo regulated clusterf*’k nest of low down thieves here. you may be confused as to the reason why I sent the first message ,I was just having a laugh and you defended your argument admirably. <\/p>\n

\tSo, he is not all that bad of a guy, but this did make for an interesting topic<\/p>\n

\tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Philham on February 26, 2018, 6:54 pm<\/p>\n

What moral precept is being discussed? Is it gambling in general? Is it overcoming a casino’s advantage? In any of the instances, from where is the moral precept derived?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Goddess on March 4, 2018, 12:25 am<\/p>\n

Too bad he is from the U.K. I was looking forward to teaching him.<\/p>\n

\tGoddess \ud83d\ude06<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on March 4, 2018, 12:47 pm<\/p>\n

Hope, Mr. Smith will come to one of our classes. Not only would he learn a lot, but he would have a lot of fun.<\/p>\n

\tRose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> MrPiP on March 6, 2018, 5:10 pm<\/p>\n

Sometimes it takes the divine golden touch to heal one’s blindness. But in this case, my Italian instincts tell me that I would be careful about this one, I don’t know of any casinos that are ran out of churches, this person could be a Casino Templar and will try to gain your trust to enter our Sacred Sanctum of Dice Controllers with ill intent, plus we already have a preacher in our class making one of the advance students sweat…lol<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Butcher on March 17, 2018, 4:13 am<\/p>\n

I think I ran into this guy or his evil twin in vegas a few years ago. He was standing next to me at SL2 and telling everyone in a loud voice to bet the don’t when I started to throw. Of course he was placing all the box numbers at the same time. I guess some people just can’t stand to see others do well or have a good time. I found this thread hilarious. Thanks<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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