{"id":9662,"date":"2017-08-29T23:32:28","date_gmt":"2017-08-29T23:32:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2017\/08\/29\/my-august-trip\/"},"modified":"2017-08-29T23:32:28","modified_gmt":"2017-08-29T23:32:28","slug":"my-august-trip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2017\/08\/29\/my-august-trip\/","title":{"rendered":"My August trip"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI was in Vegas from Friday until the following Thursday.  I did play on Thursday after driving from Los Angeles, but left Thursday without playing at all.<\/p>\n<p>\tI\u2019v already posted about my best roll, a 56 where I hit the ATS twice on the same roll, and one of the DIs I had met told me that roll got him even, as he had been down from earlier rolls.  Turned out he later hit the ATS himself before going home, so I hope he was a winner this trip.<\/p>\n<p>\tSome summary numbers for the total trip before I discuss some days in greater details.  I rolled the dice myself for 1,102 individual rolls for the six throwing days. That&#8217;s an average that more than the rolls I do on my tossing rig I have in the Condo in Los Angeles. I had 286 comeout rolls, most of which were with a seven set.  I didn\u2019t use the seven set, except for my initial throw on the 56 roll.<\/p>\n<p>\t84 of the CO rolls were 7\/11 winners and only 23 of them were CO craps 2,3,12..  Expected would have been 63.6 winners and 31.7 losers so you can see that my CO rolls were a lot better than expected.<\/p>\n<p>\tFor what\u2019s it worth 87 of my points were 6\/8, 67 were 5\/9, and 48 were 4\/10.  The spread sheet I input my rolls into doesn\u2019t calculate how many of these points I converted into winners.<\/p>\n<p>\tMy SRR on my 814 non CO rolls was only 6.07 (134 of the 816 non CO rolls were SO).<\/p>\n<p>\tI&#8217;ll talk about individual days later.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> JawBones on August 30, 2017, 12:10 am<\/p>\n<div>First of all, thanks for sharing your trip reports.  They are great to read.<\/p>\n<p>\tI have one nagging question; how in the world do you track all of these rolls with this much detail and not lose your focus?  Do you write every roll on a piece of paper as you roll?<\/p>\n<p>\tI track rolls with chips but it is usually all I can do to just keep track of how many rolls and that is without tracking which numbers I hit, how many come-out paydays, PSO&#8217;s, etc.  I am really curious how you track all of this and maintain the focus that our skill requires.<\/p>\n<p>\tI am certainly not trying to sound critical or anything.  I would love to have that much detail on my casino rolls I just can&#8217;t figure out a way to do it.<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks and keep up the great reports.<\/p>\n<p>\tJB<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on August 30, 2017, 2:43 am<\/p>\n<div>I have a 3&#215;5 notepad and pen sitting on my rail.  For other shooters I enter the number of the roll, i.e 2-6-910, etc.<\/p>\n<p>\tAt the end I put my chips in the rail and enter my chip total.  Points made I circle the number entered<\/p>\n<p>\tFor my rolls, i enter each die separately, still circle winning point numbers when made.  Summarize after each roll, it part of my routine so isn&#8217;t distracting to me.<\/p>\n<p>\tSometime later, I input my results into a spread sheet that produce the results I use to post from.  The excel sheet for these 6 days is 31 pages of excel date that I print.<\/p>\n<p>\tBeen doing this for as long time.  I have excel file going back to the first time that casinos were in Tunica.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on August 30, 2017, 6:24 pm<\/p>\n<div>I usually stop at one of the casinos before I get to where we are staying and I did so on this trip.  <\/p>\n<p>\t\tOne table was open and it was less than half full so I played and rolled three times.  First roll was only 4 and I started out with a CO 7.  Set an 8 as the point and then rolled a 10 and seven out so I lost a little..  <\/p>\n<p>\t\tI had bought in when the previous shooter had made a point and the table emptied out after he finished a roll that I lost a little on, so I got the dice right back.  My next roll I came out on a 6 which I made two rolls later.  After throwing a craps, I set the 4 as my point.  Never rolled the 4 but had a total roll of 19 before I SO.  Four people joined the table during my roll.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tI was on a CFer had a roll of 19 and I am now ahead.  The next CFer has a roll I make a little on and then I have a roll of 9 that I make a little more on. The CFer after me seven outs when I made my first bet, a come bet, so I win one red.  Next CFer has a decent roll but I break even on my bets and I leave up a high double digit amount.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tAfter we check in at our hotel I get my spot at the table.  Lose two reds on the shooter that I first bet on.  I have a roll of 10 that starts out with a CO seven and don\u2019t collect anything else on.  Lost almost all I won at the previous casino.<\/p>\n<p>\t       More will follow<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on August 30, 2017, 6:45 pm<\/p>\n<div>&quot;My SRR on my 814 non CO rolls was only 6.07 (134 of the 816 non CO rolls were SO).&quot;<br \/>\n\tYou are calculating your SRR on a mix of sevens (Come-out and Seven-out). Not valid.<br \/>\n\tBut you did well in your wins.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on August 30, 2017, 7:19 pm<\/p>\n<div>No 7&#215;7, the 814 rolls well all with a hardware set.  In addition I rolled another 286 using a seven set and had 49 7s from that set which would be a 3.75 SRR on that set.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on August 31, 2017, 4:51 am<\/p>\n<div>I played some more after I got to my hote.  I had rolls of 10, 9, 14,4, 5, and 4. Losing half of what I had won on my stop into Vegas on my own rolls  and enough on other shooter so I was about even for the trip.  <\/p>\n<p>\t\tI changed table  and rolled 7 more times and lost in total on my own rolls a high double digit amount but caught 3 rolls in the 20s from others and was up more than I won on the way into Vegas.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tSaturday morning there was only one table open so I walked across the street where Sally usually could find a 100 play penny 9\/6 JOB VP machine.  We grabbed a quick biscuit for breakfast.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tThe single table open had emptied while we got a bite so I got SL1 on a $5 table.  My first roll started with two craps tosses and then a point of 6.  Eight rolls later I had the seven out with my only collected being on the one 8 I rolled..  Second hand wasn\u2019t quite as bad came out on a 5 and 4 rolls later made it.  Next CO was the 10 and I had 3 six\/eights before the second out but loss less than the first roll.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tThird roll of mine after two rolls by other was 30.  Made points of 5, 8, 6, 8, 9, and 10.  Won mid 100s and after another shooters roll of 3 that I didn\u2019t have a bet on I called it quit winning a Benny at this casino.  Walked back to my casino and after relaxing for a while shot six times.  First three times were shots of 4,3,3 with no points made.  Next three times were better, 8, 7, 14 making single digit on the first two and mid double digit win on the last one.  CFer shot roll of 4, 7, 8 and I lost a little on two of them.  I\u2019ve given back a little more than what I won earlier that morning.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tMet a DIer and his wife at a sister casino of where we were staying.  We were able to get to a partially full table.  He was SL1 and I shot from SR1.    My rolls were 7,3,2, 12, 4, 7 and 2. His were 5, 10, 2,4, and 10.  The other shooters were 7,8,3,9, 7, 3.  I only bet on three of the other shooters and brook even on one, lost single digit on one and won single digit on the other.  I made single digit on one of the DI\u2019s roll, broke even on one I, lost single digit on one and lost low double digit on the only other one I bet on.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\tI shot one time an another casino across the street from where we were staying and won a benny and some one with a roll of 18.  Had two CO craps, two winning 7s, and made points of 10 and but couldn\u2019t make the second point of 10 I rolled.  Table filled up on me and I left without betting on anyone else.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tWe had something to eat there and then went back to where we were staying,.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tLater in the day I rolled from SR with a roll of 18 winning a little more than I had across the street earlier.  Made points of 4, 10, 4 and couldn\u2019t make my point of 8.  I rolled thrre 6s that I collected on but no 8s on that roll except for my last CO.  <\/p>\n<p>\t\tFollowed that roll with rolls of 9 that I lost on, 14 and 13 that I won on, then 8 that I loston.  I was up another benny pn that time shooting.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tAfter supper I shot again where I was staying and had roll of 4 and 15 and won some but lost more on betting on other shooters.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tThat complete my first full day where I rolled 228 rolls over 23 times with the dice.  I had 9 double digit rolls and a SRR on that days of 7.00 on non CO rolls where I was not setting for a seven, i.e. using a HW set.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tMore will follow.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> GreenMachine on August 31, 2017, 4:17 pm<\/p>\n<div>ACPA<\/p>\n<p>\tWhere is your local casino?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on August 31, 2017, 4:58 pm<\/p>\n<div>All the southern Calif casino use cards so I seldom go to any of them so my about trips a year to Vegas provide local casinos.  Usually play at [casino name removed] or [casino name removed] properties.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on August 31, 2017, 6:45 pm<\/p>\n<div>Started the 20th off on the Strip where a Di I had contacted was staying.  My  first roll was a CO 4 which came right back.  That was folled by two seven, then a point of ten, and a SO so I was a small loser.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tMy DI friend had a roll of four so I lost some more.  I then followed with a come out 4, a crap, and SO.  So I lost again.  The DI had a roll of 6 and I lost more.  I finally had a roll of 19 and was in the black here.  Had a craps, made points of 6 &amp; 8 and CO on 10 that I couldn\u2019t make.  The Di had a roll of 24 making a point of 8 three times and rolling three CO winners so I won a high double digit amount.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tI had a PSO. The DI had a made point of six with a roll of 8 and I lost more I had a Co 8 and two rolls later a SO.  I later had a roll of 14 which brought me partially back so I was only a mid double digit winner when we called it quits.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tI went across the street from wher we were staying and had a roll of 18 that I won a low double digit on.  The table had filled up so I called it quits.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tLater in the day I rolled 10 different times where I was staying with rolls between 3-16 and overall lost a mid double digit amount.  Noting special to talk about for any of those.<\/p>\n<p>\tSally had found a 2 cent Ultimate VP machine that had a random multiple when you paid an extra amount.  Pulled two to a Royal and had a 11 times multiple on it when she hit it so she was happy.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tMore to come about the last three days of my trip,<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on September 1, 2017, 3:25 am<\/p>\n<div>Moving on to Monday, the next day of the trip<\/p>\n<p>\t\tThe 21st started out for me with me meeting three DIs down on the southern edge of the strip.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tAs we were driving down we saw the nicest rainbow, a full 90 degree arc, that I\u2019ve seen in a long time.  They were already at the table when I got there.  Two at SR and one at SL and one other person at straight out SL.  SL was throwing and I got in on a break but didn\u2019t get a bet down.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tMy first roll was a PSO with the 10 as the point.  The other person had a roll of 10 and I lost some more.  The DI had a roll of seven and I lost a come bet with double odds.  The female DI had a roll of 5 and I lost another bet on her.  The DI next to me had a roll of six and I lost a red on him.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tI had a roll of 27 starting with a CO nine that it took me 11 rolls to make. Next roll was a CO 4 which I never made.  I did roll all three parts of the ATS when I made the 11 on my next to last roll.  I recovered about half of my previous losses.  <\/p>\n<p>\t\tThe non DI at the table had a three.  The the DI had a roll of 9, starting out with three sevens before setting the 5 which he didn\u2019t make.I lost a single digit on him.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tThe Mrs. DI who followed had a roll of 6.  The DI at SL had a roll of three.<\/p>\n<p>\t        I followed with my 56 roll which I posted about earlier and won\u2019t repeat here other than to say I made all three of the ATS twice and was one number away on the S &amp; T from making the ATS three times.  The four digit win was the largest individual win I\u2019ve had in several years.<\/p>\n<p>\t        We colored up and each had to be some other place.<\/p>\n<p>\t         We were changing hotel so whe back to our hotel.  My spot was open and I had rolls of 3, 4, and 7 all of which were losers and I lost a benny.  Went to the room and checked out and moved to the sister property.<\/p>\n<p>\t         After checking in at the new hotel, I found a spot at a table and had rolls of 11 and 15 and recovered 3\/4th of what I had lost my previous roll.  Only made one point each of those rolls.  From there it turned nasty, Had a roll of nine for a small win, and then rolls of 2, 5, 4.  Then a roll of 13 that started with a 7, followed with a point of 8 made right back then a point of 10 that I didn\u2019t make and was a loser on the roll.  Another roll of 13 that I made the point of 8 on twice and won a little on.  Had rolls of 11 and 3 before giving up  and calling it a night.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on September 1, 2017, 3:27 am<\/p>\n<div>Thought about going home early and in fact told the DI we had played with that we were.  Changed our min though.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tDrove down and parked at the strip at one of the casinos my card gave me free parking.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tWalk south through casinos until I find a nearly empty $5 table.  Buy in on a point being made win a low middle amount on the rest of the roll.  I shoot a roll of 11.  Start off with two sevens, point of 6 which I make followed by two natural winners and a point of six which I don\u2019t make and I won two bucks.  Table filled up and I moved on.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tWent to the casino that has stools at all the tables without me having to ask for one.  First roll was only four throws and I couldn\u2019t make my point of 6.  One roll of 3 that I didn\u2019t bet on and then a roll of 10 that I lost a little on.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tI followed with a roll of 13 that I made the point of 9 twice but couldn\u2019t make it the third time.  I\u2019m positive on this casino now.  I group of three young men had come in but only one of them rolled   He had a roll of 9 but didn\u2019t throw any winners for himself. .  I won two bucks on him and had a roll of 12 myself and then walked away with a small win on making one point and one natural winner.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tMoved across the street and pass several casino until I found two table, one $10 that was fairly full and a $15 that was empty..    I got in on a roll of 32 that I made over three bennies on.  Then I had a roll of 15 making one point, the 9, and coming out on th 8 which I couldn\u2019t repeat and won half a benny.  <\/p>\n<p>\t\tAfter cashing out at that table I came by another table ask asked then to let me play it at $5 until somebody else showed up.  I had rolls of 4 and 13 before someone else showed up and I cashed out down a little.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tNext casino I stopped at I played a $10 table.  First roll was only 7 but I had thee CO 7 before then set a 6 that I rolled back in two rolls before setting a 9 which I didn\u2019t make.  Next roll was a 13 and I started with two CO7s , then came right back to make my point of 9 in two rolls before having a point of 8 I didn\u2019t make.  I won a single digit amount here.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tI stopped across the street at the small casino and had rolls of 4, 7, and 3 and lost over a bennie.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tTables were all $10  and I couldn\u2019t put anything together with rolls of 9, 3, 12 , and 5 and I lost a little over a benny.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tDrove back out to our hotel and I had rolls of 9, 9, and 4 which were all losses for me.  <\/p>\n<p>\t\tWe did take time off to see a movie since the casino wasn\u2019t making any money.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tMore to follow.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on September 1, 2017, 6:20 pm<\/p>\n<div>This is final report on this successful trip to Vegas.  I expect to be back in December for what has become quarterly trips to Vegas.  Well the 23rd started out like a continuation of some recent throws.  Throw from SR of 8 and 4 and I\u2019m down over half a benny.<\/p>\n<p>\t        Continue with throws of 8 and 5 on which I lose more.   Finally put together a roll of 27 making a points of 8, 6, 6, 6, and CO on a four which I can\u2019t make.   I have recovered what I loss and am up mid $200 and call it quits on what is now an almost full table.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tAfter a break we go to the original casino we were at, and I\u2019m back with a toss of 2 on a point of 6.  Next roll a point of 4 which I make followed by a point 9 that I make but can\u2019t make the 4 again.<br \/>\n\tOverall a roll of 24, which puts me up over a benny.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tTook breaks through the day and sometime found a table I felt like playing.  Overall this day I had 44 comeout thows and had 10 CO wins and 5 CO losses.  Made 9 points and 20 points not made.  Had an average roll of 8.45 and a SRR from the hardway set of 6.15.  Total losses for the day was almost two bennies but I came home with ocer 5 bennies more than a started with.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tOver all I threw the dice an average of 8.22 per roll with an SRR from my non seven sets of 6.07.  Will probably not be back at the table until early December but have a throwing station in our condo to practice on.  The DIs I met had 23 throws and other shooters had 146 rolls. <\/p>\n<p>\t\tHope you found the reports interesting and informative.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on September 1, 2017, 6:44 pm<\/p>\n<div>Nice job, safe travels home<\/p>\n<p>\tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on September 2, 2017, 2:01 am<\/p>\n<div>Great report . Will be in Vegas next week and then in Nov for great  gift wrap up . No more craps after that till next year .Hope that we can get together next year . Till then have many good rolls  and posts .<br \/>\n\tgood rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was in Vegas from Friday until the following Thursday. I did play on Thursday after driving from Los Angeles, but left Thursday without playing at all. 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