{"id":9556,"date":"2017-02-22T22:24:49","date_gmt":"2017-02-22T22:24:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2017\/02\/22\/new-to-gtc-not-new-to-craps\/"},"modified":"2017-02-22T22:24:49","modified_gmt":"2017-02-22T22:24:49","slug":"new-to-gtc-not-new-to-craps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2017\/02\/22\/new-to-gtc-not-new-to-craps\/","title":{"rendered":"New to GTC, not new to Craps"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHello All,<\/p>\n<p>\tFor years I have been an avid craps player, I have played in LV, Tunica, MS Gulf Coast and at my locals here in Central MS. I have read several books and watched hundreds of videos on grips, techniques and sets, and I have found what I think is the safest set, but I recently purchased a gripper from GTC and at first it helped me to get a tighter grip on the dice, but here in the last two weeks +\/- my grip has improved but my throw\/toss has been a little lackluster to say the least. I have recently and repeatedly picked up a double pitch. My question is simple: AmI trying to hard or am I just having some bad days?<\/p>\n<p>\tP.S. I play 4-5 days a week 6-8hrs a day, when I&#8217;m home from work.<\/p>\n<p>\tAny help\/advice would be greatly appreciated&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\tI am trying to work my schedule out to where I will be home in time to get the Shreveport class.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Stephen C on February 23, 2017, 4:28 am<\/p>\n<div>For the GTC style of play your grip should be light as a feather. The pendulum swing should be from the shoulder not elbow, arm hanging loosely. The dice should slip from your grip rather than you releasing them.<\/p>\n<p>\tNow for the best advice I can give. Take the class. You can read all Franks books and commit every word to memory and they won&#8217;t do you a damn bit of good without knowing how to apply, correctly, the principals espoused in them.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on February 24, 2017, 11:56 am<\/p>\n<div>Charly,<\/p>\n<p>\tGlad to have you aboard and part of the GTC family.  You have already received some excellent advice.  Alligator Rose and I will add our 2 cents worth.   A class is imperative and most important.  Only here can you have some of the finest instructors take a look at your throw and help you on your journey to becoming the advantage player  we know you can become.  <\/p>\n<p>\tWe do have 6 classes a year&#8211;5 left in 2017.  Classes for the rest of this year are in Memphis (near) Tunica Mississippi, in Shreveport LA, in Vegas and in Atlantic City.  Hopefully one of these will fit your schedule.  The exact dates are posted on the GTC web site.  Call Dom at 866 SET DICE and he can sign you up.  Not only will you learn more than you ever realized, but the class is a lot of fun.  <\/p>\n<p>\tHope to see you soon.<\/p>\n<p>\tRose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MIDNIGHT on February 24, 2017, 4:52 pm<\/p>\n<div>Well said Dr. C.  Let me also say that if you are practicing 40 hours a week, you are practicing way too much.  Especially if you have not taken a class.  The problem is many fold.  First and foremost, if you are practicing 40 hours a week and you are not throwing the dice correctly, then that&#8217;s a lot of muscle memory you are training yourself to throw the dice incorrectly.  Why practice the wrong way.  Come in and let us show you how to do it the right way.  Also, that many hours will cause some serious fatigue.  Imagine a NFL player practicing that many hours a week.  He would die from exhaustion.  1-2 hours a day is plenty if you are doing things right.  Hope to see you in a class soon.<\/p>\n<p>\tMidnight<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on February 24, 2017, 6:09 pm<\/p>\n<div>Get two old dice and glue they together. This will show you how year dice are looking threw the air before they hit the wall .Try throwing into a small bowel also see how close they stop from each other .There is a game of some sorts on old post that you may want to try also .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MikeS on February 26, 2017, 3:45 pm<\/p>\n<div>Hey CharlyF&#8230;. I&#8217;m a student of GTC and have been to 2 classes in the last 2 years&#8230;. I&#8217;ll vouch for Dom &amp; the GTC crew without reservation!!!  The classes are non-threatening, fun &amp; worth your time. I&#8217;ve received invaluable advice &amp; direction with my technique, mental approach and betting startegies. It has become a family that I look forward working with every year. The result is that I am more successful at the tables. Feel free to reach out if you&#8217;d like to talk or email.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on March 1, 2017, 3:24 pm<\/p>\n<div>CharlyF,<br \/>\n\tRegarding above, yup, yup yup.  This is a fun, but sometimes frustrating journey. In my time with our GTC family, I&#8217;ve learned and relearned key aspects, but most recently, I&#8217;ve gotten, with the help of many, how to better evaluate what I&#8217;m doing right\/wrong, how to adjust at the table, or perhaps when to walk away.<\/p>\n<p>\tMy recent forays have relied on that heavily when I&#8217;ve dug a little hole before figuring out the table and coming back with confidence. That is what you can get here. A great family all on the same journey with the same goals.<\/p>\n<p>\tBest of luck on your journey.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on March 12, 2017, 9:20 pm<\/p>\n<div>Have you tried the two glued dice thing yet . Also is the gripper helping any or have you stopped using it ? also if you grip the dice first and then put them in the gripper you may tell if you are still doing it right .This is a journey .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Just Charly on March 12, 2017, 10:41 pm<\/p>\n<div>Finished the class and now I understand what is going on with my dice. Thanks for all the help.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Hot Shot on March 13, 2017, 6:37 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;CharlyF&quot; wrote:<\/strong> Finished the class and now I understand what is going on with my dice. Thanks for all the help.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tso what was the solution to your double pitch issue?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Just Charly on March 14, 2017, 3:44 pm<\/p>\n<div>Evolve,<br \/>\n\tFront fingers were a little bit off, causing one dice to rotate faster.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Hot Shot on March 14, 2017, 4:07 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;CharlyF&quot; wrote:<\/strong> Evolve,<br \/>\n\tFront fingers were a little bit off, causing one dice to rotate faster.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\twas hoping for some insight to when I get double pitch, but I don&#8217;t have your issue.<br \/>\n\tI&#8217;m practicing at home with a gripper all the time. I should be lined up.<\/p>\n<p>\tIts really hard to correct mistakes when you don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s happening.<br \/>\n\tI&#8217;m pretty good at seeing what is wrong a lot of the time, but I have times where I have no clue.<br \/>\n\tIf you&#8217;re not at class and there is no one to watch you, I don&#8217;t see a good way to correct a mistake that you cant identify.<br \/>\n\tProblem with that is you will keep practicing with something that is off which seems like a bad idea, and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m always trying to analyze when something goes wrong. I want to learn from the mistake and correct it asap.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> The WoW Man on March 15, 2017, 4:28 pm<\/p>\n<div>Welcome CharlyF and good luck!<br \/>\n\tEvolve&#8217;<br \/>\n\tPossibly the pressure from the front three fingers is uneven. I&#8217;m sure one or more of the instructors will chime in.<\/p>\n<p>\tCatch you later!<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hello All, For years I have been an avid craps player, I have played in LV, Tunica, MS Gulf Coast and at my locals here in Central MS. 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