{"id":9492,"date":"2016-10-09T00:55:51","date_gmt":"2016-10-09T00:55:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2016\/10\/09\/texas-holdem\/"},"modified":"2016-10-09T00:55:51","modified_gmt":"2016-10-09T00:55:51","slug":"texas-holdem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2016\/10\/09\/texas-holdem\/","title":{"rendered":"Texas Hold'em"},"content":{"rendered":"


\nI was playing poker the other night and one of the players said in Canada a straight beats a flush.<\/p>\n

\tMy first thought was their math is wrong. Video poker pays better for a flush than a straight. But that is 5 card draw. What effect does having community card have on the odds of flush versus straight?<\/p>\n

\tAnecdotally I see a lot of flushes, not so many straights. But that might be more of a function of the way the game is played, and not the actual odds. Players are more likely to bet on a suited pair rather than any off suit straight draw, pre-flop.<\/p>\n

\tAnybody ever hear of this?<\/p>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Pit Boss on September 25, 2017, 4:07 am<\/p>\n

I could not find anything that supports this. <\/p>\n

\tLook at it this way…<\/p>\n

\tYou hold 8-9 of hearts.<\/p>\n

\tThe cards that can help you make a straight are:
\n\t5555- 6666-7777-TTTT-JJJJ-QQQQ…24 outs<\/p>\n

\tBut the cards that help you make a flush are:
\n\tA234567TJQK of hearts… 11 outs<\/p>\n

\tIn a large sample of hands where 7 cards are dealt ( like in a hand of holdem or stud) you will see 2 flushes for every three straights more or less.<\/p>\n

\tThat said.. counter intuitively after a flop a hand with 4 to a straight has a slightly worse chance of seeing the straight than 4 to a flush has of seeing a flush. (8 outs vs. 9)<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on September 25, 2017, 6:04 am<\/p>\n

In Texas Hold’em you are playing your best 5 cards out of 7. It does not matter that there are community cards because for your hand you are still playing with 7 cards.<\/p>\n

\tIn 7 card poker there are 4,047,644 ways to make a flush and 6,180,020 ways to make a straight. The total number of possible 5 card hands out of 7 cards is 133,784,560.<\/p>\n

\tThus the probability of a flush is 3.03% and 4.62% for a straight. A flush beats a straight.<\/p>\n

\tPerhaps they were mixing it up with Three Card Poker.<\/p>\n

\tIn 3 card poker there are 720 ways to make a straight and 1,096 ways to make a flush. The total number of possible 3 card hands out of 3 cards is 22,100.<\/p>\n

\tThus the probability of a straight is 3.26% and 4.96% for a flush. That is why a straight beats a flush in 3 card poker.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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Posted by:<\/strong> sevenout on September 26, 2017, 1:50 pm<\/p>\n

I was wondering if the nature of the game makes a difference. In 5 card draw would you be more likely to stay in with 4 to a straight vs 2-3 off suit? 2-3 suited might be more likely to stay in to see the flop.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on September 26, 2017, 7:41 pm<\/p>\n

I don’t think that matters. But it is an interesting concept that made me think for quite a bit. Please don’t make me think so hard :D.<\/p>\n

\tIt is more likely we don’t have the proper information.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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