{"id":91,"date":"2012-01-08T19:47:08","date_gmt":"2012-01-08T19:47:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/01\/08\/the-magic-of-gtc-by-timmer\/"},"modified":"2012-01-08T19:47:08","modified_gmt":"2012-01-08T19:47:08","slug":"the-magic-of-gtc-by-timmer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/01\/08\/the-magic-of-gtc-by-timmer\/","title":{"rendered":"The magic of GTC by Timmer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nVegas Trip Report: The GTC Way &#8211; Dealer Bets, Tipping And Using The &quot;Magic Words&quot; by Timmer<\/p>\n<p>\tThis report may be a little different from what is usually in trip report posts. I want to focus on the positive experiences I had in Las Vegas recently, that were surely a direct result of doing things the \u201cGTC Way\u201d- with an addition. \u2013 That is, dealer tipping and the additional use of the \u201cMagic Words\u201d. <\/p>\n<p>\tI\u2019m a believer in the \u201cGolden Rule\u201d of doing unto others as you would have others do unto you. In other words, treat other people the same way you wish to be treated. You\u2019ve likely heard \u201cWhat goes around comes around\u201d or, \u201cGood things happen to good people\u201d, or similar sayings. We can all come up with more of these I\u2019m sure. What they all are essentially saying is if you treat people with kindness and respect, it will come back to you. In spades! I also believe doing this emulates the core values of what GTC teaches. Just take a look at Dominator\u2019s 20 Commandments. Hopefully this trip report will show just how true and powerful the GTC philosophy is! <\/p>\n<p>\tWell, here\u2019s my story\u2026 Six of us \u2013 myself, my two brothers and our spouses recently met up for a week in Las Vegas. We all stayed at one of the nicer resort\/casinos on the strip. The casino we were staying at has been described as having &quot;our GTC kind&quot; of craps tables. But supposedly the dealers there, especially those on the evening shift, were known to give \u201cheat\u201d to controlled shooters. <\/p>\n<p>\tWhile we primarily played at our \u201chome\u201d casino, over the course of the week we also played craps at five other casinos on the strip. One afternoon we also played at several places on Fremont which had been recommended by fellow GTCers as having decent craps tables. <\/p>\n<p>\tAt every session at all casinos, and each time I was the shooter a $1.00 bet was made for the dealers next to my pass line bet. I also made it a point to loudly proclaim \u201cDealers on the line\u201d each time the stickman pushed the dice my way. Doing this allowed me to acknowledge the dealer\u2019s \u201cthank you\u2019s\u201d for the bet by saying \u201cyou\u2019re welcome\u201d each and every time I was thanked by the dealers. I added a second $1.00 dealer bet to my pass line odds bet as well. <\/p>\n<p>\tThere may be some confusion for some about dealer bets and tipping worth clearing up here. First, there is no rule or requirement that your bet for the dealers be at or above the table minimum. In other words, when playing at a $5.00 or $10.00 table, a $1.00 bet (or more) made for the dealers is perfectly acceptable, generous and welcomed! So now there\u2019s no excuse that you can\u2019t afford to tip or place a bet for the dealers! <br \/>\n\tSecondly, at most if not all Vegas casinos there is no difference between a pass line or odds bet made for the dealers and a \u201chardways\u201d or \u201ccrazy crapper\u201d bet made for the dealers as to how the tokes (tips) are distributed. While at one time at least one of the well known Vegas strip casinos gave dealer bets won on the \u201chardways\u201d directly to the individual table crews or to just the craps pit, that is no longer the case. All dealer \u201ctokes\u201d are pooled and divided among all dealers working a given shift at the casino. (There may be exceptions to this \u201ctoke distribution procedure\u201d that I\u2019m sure will be commented on.) Of course tips for the dealers can be made by simply dropping a portion of your winnings on the table and saying, \u201cThis is for the dealers\u201d. <\/p>\n<p>\tWell, on with my story. &#8211; One evening we were playing at our \u201chome\u201d casino on the strip. I was the SR1 shooter and having a pretty good roll, by this point in the mid-20\u2019s. Needless to say I had been adding regular dealer bets alongside my pass line and odds bets. <\/p>\n<p>\tAt our end of the table was one of the most annoying people you could ever imagine having at a craps table or elsewhere! This woman was constantly shouting at the dealers in her whiny, high-pitched heavily accented, almost unintelligible voice as she repetitively threw down late bets or demanded to be paid before the dealer had worked his way to her, etc. I\u2019m being quite kind in my description of her here! <\/p>\n<p>\tAfter warning her three or four, or five times to stop making late bets, the dealer, referring to me, told the annoying woman &#8211; \u201cMa\u2019am, don\u2019t interrupt a good shooter in the middle of a roll.\u201d Keep in mind that I had been placing dealer tips and using the Magic Words \u201cplease\u201d and \u201cthank you\u201d regularly. <\/p>\n<p>\tAlthough having now been warned repeatedly, \u201cannoying woman\u201d of course threw out another late bet when the dice were out. The dealer called out \u201cno bet\u201d to her just before I threw. Well, \u201cannoying woman\u201d went ballistic and began angrily hurling insults at the dealer, who sternly yet professionally reminded her she had been warned several times not to make bets after the dice were out. <\/p>\n<p>\tBy this time she had agitated both the crew and everyone at the table. <\/p>\n<p>\tThe final straw came a few minutes later as I was putting odds on my come bet that had just resolved. Incredibly, \u201cannoying woman\u201d claimed it was her come bet! Although several other players assured her it was my bet, she wouldn\u2019t back down. After arguing back and forth with her several times about it, I suggested she \u201ccheck the tape\u201d. Thankfully the dealer stepped in, telling her he had also seen me make the bet. Well, this still didn\u2019t shut her up, I finally threw her two nickel chips and said \u201cenough.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>\tNow completely out of control, \u201cannoying woman\u201d began to argue with the table supervisor about the dealer. After not getting anywhere with the supervisor, she demanded to speak to the pit boss. A few minutes more arguing with the pit boss, \u201cannoying woman\u201d finally gave up and stormed off. <\/p>\n<p>\tThere is a point to telling this long-winded story about the annoying woman. A short time after she had stormed off and after he consulted with our dealer, the table supervisor apologized to me for the incident. He insisted on paying me back the $10.00 I had given to \u201cannoying woman,\u201d apologized yet again and sincerely requested that I let him know if there was anything more he could do for me. By the way, my roll ended at a profitable 37! <\/p>\n<p>\tI believe the way this incident was handled by the casino personnel, along with my receiving absolutely no \u201cheat\u201d or criticism at any casino for the entire week are great examples of the power of the GTC philosophy and doing things the \u201cGTC Way\u201d. In fact, I was complimented by one dealer who said \u201cNow, there\u2019s a perfect throw\u201d. (It was a pretty nice one!) <\/p>\n<p>\tFollowing the GTC philosophy of making dealer bets and\/or tipping, along with using the Magic Words \u201cplease\u201d and \u201cthank you\u201d can be incredibly powerful tools to aid us as GTC advantage players. <\/p>\n<p>\tLike it or not, along with being taught the skills and \u201csecrets\u201d of GTC dice control and advantage play comes the responsibility of being an ambassador and representing GTC. Our actions are viewed not only by casino personnel, but by other players as well. Our positive attitude, conduct and professionalism (or lack of it) will also impact on our fellow GTCers who may visit that casino in the future. <\/p>\n<p>\tThe real secret to this is, Our conduct and doing things the \u201cGTC Way\u201d will seem like a breath of fresh air to casino personnel who are used to routinely have to deal with drunk, rude, obnoxious \u201cpatrons\u201d of their casinos. By not tipping or being polite by using the &quot;Magic Words&quot;, is it possible that we are bringing \u201cheat\u201d upon ourselves? I\u2019ll bet that it is not only possible, but probable&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>\tHow do you wish to be treated by others??? <\/p>\n<p>\tSo, if you haven\u2019t been practicing the \u201cGTC Way\u201d of making dealer bets, tipping and additional use the \u201cMagic Words\u201d I suggest you give it a try. I\u2019ll wager you\u2019ll be most pleased with the results!!! <\/p>\n<p>\tOh, did I mention I left Vegas with a nice $$4-digit$$ addition to my 401G? &#8211; Sweet!!! <\/p>\n<p>\tThank you for reading this post&#8230; Heh! <br \/>\n\tTimmer<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<p>No replies were posted for this topic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vegas Trip Report: The GTC Way &#8211; Dealer Bets, Tipping And Using The &quot;Magic Words&quot; by Timmer This report may be a little different from what is usually in trip report posts. 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