{"id":9034,"date":"2015-08-03T15:03:32","date_gmt":"2015-08-03T15:03:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/08\/03\/how-many-rolls-before-you-finally-roll-a-box-number\/"},"modified":"2015-08-03T15:03:32","modified_gmt":"2015-08-03T15:03:32","slug":"how-many-rolls-before-you-finally-roll-a-box-number","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/08\/03\/how-many-rolls-before-you-finally-roll-a-box-number\/","title":{"rendered":"How many rolls before you finally roll a box number"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nThis should be a fun little thread. <\/p>\n<p>\tRose and Doc were practicing yesterday and I think Doc may have set a new record&#8211;for him anyway.  I rolled the dice 8 times before I finally rolled a box number.  He had five 7&#8217;s (only one 6\/1), two 6\/5&#8217;s and one 2\/1.  On the 9th roll set a point of 8 with a 4\/4.  Seemed to get the devil out of the way early.  <\/p>\n<p>\tA new record for me.  If any body has any war stories such as this we would love to hear about it.  <\/p>\n<p>\tRose and Doc<\/p>\n<p>\tPS&#8211;of course Rose never does anything like this!!!!!<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TheLion on August 3, 2015, 4:05 pm<\/p>\n<div>Awesome thread &#8212; I&#8217;ll probably get &quot;roasted&quot; for this one<\/p>\n<p>\tI have so many strategies for &quot;come out&quot; rolls, it&#8217;s insane &#8212; much depends on the table minimum (5,10,15,25) and if there&#8217;s a fire bet at that casino.<\/p>\n<p>\tLet&#8217;s go with the $10 table and Fire bet.  I use a &quot;superset 12&quot; a my initial set and put $10 on the don&#8217;t pass, $15 on the pass line, $5 or $10 on the fire bet, and then put down a $5 world bet.  If my shot is on, I&#8217;ll hit either a craps or a yo winner&#8230;.If i&#8217;m slightly off, I&#8217;ll hit a 6-1 winner &#8230;.if I&#8217;m more off, I&#8217;ll hit a 4 or 10 (I really don&#8217;t care as I need them anyway to win the fire bet later)&#8230;.and if I&#8217;m really off, i&#8217;ll set-up an inside box number.    Each time I hit a &quot;World winner&quot;, I press the world up another $5.   My best win is over $300 on a come out as I kept hitting winners and then started to bet the 1\/2 and 6\/5 individually.    I used to use the  &quot;ace\/Duece&quot; set and in 8 come out rolls, I hit 6 craps, 1 yo, and 1 Seven &#8230; then on roll 9, finally set-up a box number.   On a fire bet table, I only do this up to the 2nd point hit.   Once I have 2 points on the fire, I then set-up the dice to specifically hit the remaining box numbers to WIN the FIRE bet.<\/p>\n<p>\tMy betting gives me a 33% chance (2, 3, 11, 12, and the 7 are come-out roll winners) to win $$$ on the come out roll &#8212; plus, my initial spread is SO LOW, I have very little exposure.   Plus, i can share a box number or two with The Princess, so we have VERY LITTLE $$$ exposure on the initial rolls past the point getting set-up<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on August 3, 2015, 11:20 pm<\/p>\n<div>Interesting betting strategy, to say the least.  Certainly a lot of bets on the table with very high house edges.  But if it works for you, got for it.  Just hope the long run doesn&#8217;t bite you somewhere below the waist.  <\/p>\n<p>\tRose and Doc look forward to seeing you and the Princess in the casinos soon and of course having a meal together.<\/p>\n<p>\tHope Dom and Skinny will respond.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on August 4, 2015, 1:28 am<\/p>\n<div>I was playing my old craps machine . Which they have taken out . The guy sitting next to me was betting the field and pass line . I put one dollar on 6 and 8 . I rolled till I est a point of 4 which was on the 17 roll . Then rolled a 8 and 7 out for a loss on my 6 and 8 for .84 .The guy next to me was vary happy with his wins tho .<br \/>\n\tI have not done that in practice yet or any better but have done 6,7 and 10 rolls before est. a point .It is nice to have won your spread before you est. a point .Winning is nice even if it is only 2.00 a roll .<br \/>\n\tWill try how the Lion does it later in practice .<br \/>\n\tNo more practice till late Sept. or Oct. <br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude42  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on August 4, 2015, 1:35 am<\/p>\n<div>Lion How do you play after you est. your point ?<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude42  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TheLion on August 4, 2015, 2:27 am<\/p>\n<div>Let&#8217;s say the first point is a 4,5, 9,10&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\tI will take the 6 for $12 and The Princess takes the 8 for $12 (we share 2 numbers)<\/p>\n<p>\tI may or may not put odds down since I already have a $5 line bet (15-10=5) (if my point is a 6 or 8, I will put $5 behind the pass line as my odds bet)<\/p>\n<p>\tI try to hit 6 and 8 and use the casino $$ to build my odds.   <\/p>\n<p>\tI do not put much $$$ out initially.   If I have a $5 fire, I always lay against the 4th, 5th, and 6th points.    I have almost gotten to the point of starting to lay against point #3 to ensure wins.<\/p>\n<p>\tI try to get a few hits on place bet numbers we are betting on to get a &quot;win&quot; &#8212; then, hitting the point is great, if I can, to WIN that FIRE bet<\/p>\n<p>\tI play\/bet a small game &#8212; I like to get 8-10 shots in per session<\/p>\n<p>\tI&#8217;m a big believer that I can get ONE KILLER roll in 10 shots, especially if I&#8217;m on a GTC friendly table and the dice are rolling well and feel &quot;good&quot; in my hands\/fingers<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TheLion on August 4, 2015, 3:05 pm<\/p>\n<div>Hi Doc &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>\tI&#8217;m ok with the betting not biting me &#8212; I can usually hit a few winners to make it worthwhile &#8212; also, keep in mind that I only do it for the first 2 points on a fire bet table &#8212; and we rarely play at non-fire bet casinos <\/p>\n<p>\tThe one thing I like about the &quot;superset 12&quot; come out set is that it gives me a great barometer of my throw &amp; casino dice conditions.   Using that set and if I hit a hard-6 or hard-8 on the come out roll, I know something is wrong (my throw \/ the dice, etc.) &#8212; I WILL NOT bet much $$$ when I see that outcome &#8212; and, guess what?? &#8212; I barely make it past 6 rolls &#8212; BUT, i do not lose much, if anything<\/p>\n<p>\tAlso, if hit some winners on the come out (2,3,11,12), I know things are good, confidence is soaring, and usually I have good rolls to support the come-out results<\/p>\n<p>\tLooking forward to seeing you and Rose sometime soon<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SureShot on August 6, 2015, 6:45 pm<\/p>\n<div>The other day in practice I rolled five sevens in a row.  I think that is the most for me before setting the point.<\/p>\n<p>\tSureshot<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TheLion on August 6, 2015, 7:27 pm<\/p>\n<div>Sureshot &#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\tWhat dice set are you using on the come-out roll?  (the all-7 ??)<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SureShot on August 7, 2015, 6:34 pm<\/p>\n<div>Lion &#8211; <\/p>\n<p>\tI was not trying for the seven &#8211; I was using the 2V, but all five sevens were either 3-4 or 5-2.<\/p>\n<p>\tSureshot.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TheLion on August 7, 2015, 7:52 pm<\/p>\n<div>With all those 7&#8217;s, I&#8217;d use the 2-V for the come out roll<\/p>\n<p>\tThen, go back to the hardway set for the regular rolls as it seems the 2-V set would be very risky based on the # of 7&#8217;s you&#8217;re generating<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on August 7, 2015, 9:52 pm<\/p>\n<div>So if you were using the 2-V set you were double pitching 1 die for a 5-2 and rolling out another die for the 4-3.  I think it is time to check out your grip.<\/p>\n<p>\tRolling out a die or double pitching another die surely is a grip problem.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Goddess on August 7, 2015, 11:03 pm<\/p>\n<div>My longest come out roll at a casino was seven 7&#8217;s and one yo. However, I am known to have several 7&#8217;s and yo&#8217;s on come out rolls. My friends say that portends a long roll. I always use the hardways set. <\/p>\n<p>\tGoddess.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This should be a fun little thread. Rose and Doc were practicing yesterday and I think Doc may have set a new record&#8211;for him anyway. I rolled the dice 8 times before I finally rolled a box number. 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