{"id":8748,"date":"2015-03-13T16:44:52","date_gmt":"2015-03-13T16:44:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/03\/13\/lower-trigger-of-600-for-jackpots-seen-as-costly-for-casinos\/"},"modified":"2015-03-13T16:44:52","modified_gmt":"2015-03-13T16:44:52","slug":"lower-trigger-of-600-for-jackpots-seen-as-costly-for-casinos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/03\/13\/lower-trigger-of-600-for-jackpots-seen-as-costly-for-casinos\/","title":{"rendered":"Lower trigger of $600 for jackpots seen as costly for casinos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHoward Stutz, Las Vegas Review-Journal <\/p>\n<p>\tA Wall Street gaming analyst calculated that individual casinos could lose roughly $530,000 per year under a proposed Internal Revenue Service change that would lower the reporting rules for casino customer winnings.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe suggested move to reduce the trigger from $1,200 to $600 on jackpots for slot machines, keno and table games, was soundly criticized by gaming industry leaders as unnecessary and burdensome. The IRS set a 90-day period for the casino industry to respond to the proposed action.<\/p>\n<p>\tCredit Suisse gaming analyst Joel Simkins said the downtime on a slot machine to allow a customer to fill out IRS paper work and for the game to be reset would increase significantly through the regulation changes.<\/p>\n<p>\tIn a report to investors this week, Simkins said casinos would face additional labor costs for hiring more employees to make service calls to reset games following jackpots.<\/p>\n<p>\tSimkins said $600 jackpots are far more frequent than they were in 1970s when the IRS first enacted the $1,200 reporting threshold.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cWhile $530,000 per casino is not game changing, the impact on a portfolio of 20 to 30 casinos begins to add up,\u201d Simkins wrote. \u201cWe expect this topic to be a galvanizing issue for casino interests and state interests.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tThe American Gaming Association came out against the proposed changes after they were first announced, calling the move \u201ca step backward for the industry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tPenn National Gaming Senior Vice President of Public Affairs Eric Schippers suggested the IRS increase the reporting threshold.<\/p>\n<p>\tSimkins agreed. The last IRS revision in 1977 came before the increase in regional and American Indian casinos. At the time, Nevada and pari-mutuel racing were the only legal gambling options in the U.S.<\/p>\n<p>\tIn his investors note, Simkins suggested the proposed changes would shrink gaming tax dollars paid to states and local governments.<\/p>\n<p>\tHe said the $600 threshold would \u201ctake the joy\u201d out of playing slot machines for many players and also slow down play at the game level.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cIn many high tax rate jurisdictions, states are significant partners with casino operators and have a vested interest in making sure that tax streams remains steady and growing,\u201d Simkins said. \u201cWe believe that once politicians better understand that tax revenues could be negatively impacted, there will be increased push-back and commentary on any changes that cut into their coffers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tEarlier this week, Rep. Dina Titus, D-Las Vegas, asked to meet with IRS Commissioner John Koskinen to discuss the proposed changes. In a letter, Titus said the new reporting requirements aren\u2019t needed.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cI am concerned that the IRS has not adequately justified the need for this regulatory change,\u201d Titus wrote. \u201cThe gaming industry already partners extensively with the IRS and other agencies to facilitate collection of taxation as well to prevent money laundering and other potentially illicit activities.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tIn its proposal, the IRS said it was seeking comments regarding the reporting figure, including the feasibility of reducing the reporting threshold, whether electronically tracked slot machine play should have a separate reporting threshold, and if the games\u2019 reporting amounts should be uniform.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe comment period ends June 2. The IRS may hold a public hearing on the issue on June 17.<\/p>\n<p>\tSimkins said the proposed change is one of the few revisions of federal issues that has come up recently and would prompt the AGA and other trade groups to lobby aggressively on the downside of the changes.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cWe see this attempt to generate additional federal tax revenue as anti-business and consumer, (and) placing additional compliance burden onto operators,\u201d Simkins said.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on March 15, 2015, 12:45 am<\/p>\n<div>The greedy sob&#8217;s.  In my humble opinion it will generate very little revenue for the federal government.  Guess we will really have to keep track of our losses to offset any wins we get.  <\/p>\n<p>\tdoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on March 15, 2015, 3:36 am<\/p>\n<div>As the sign in Caesar&#8217;s Windsor Ontario Canada says<\/p>\n<p>\t&quot; WE DO NOT TAX YOUR WINNINGS&quot;<\/p>\n<p>\tand we DO NOT in Canada&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.  any casino or lottery wins<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on March 15, 2015, 5:48 am<\/p>\n<div>My wife likes the money BUT not the slips period .In some casinos the down time may be greater then they think .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude42  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Howard Stutz, Las Vegas Review-Journal A Wall Street gaming analyst calculated that individual casinos could lose roughly $530,000 per year under a proposed Internal Revenue Service change that would lower the reporting rules for casino customer winnings. 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