\nI went to a lot of trouble to create this post (as a draft) in "CRAPS"
\n\tand couldn’t figure how to transfer it to "OTHER GAMES".
\n\tSorry to present it here:<\/p>\n
\tI imagine this to be a math\/statistics\/probability\/odds problem.
\n\tSo Skinny (right up your alley?) and\/or someone else may want to look into this challenge?<\/p>\n
\tThe Keno video machine displays 80 numbers at the start, an array of 1 thru 80 on the screen.
\n\tYou select one or more ‘spots’, with a maximum of 10 spots for only 25 cents per play.
\n\tThe Keno video machine randomly flags 10 winners among the 80 numbers.
\n\tYou win according to the payscale below.
\n\tFor example, for your 25 cents,
\n\t(a) If you selected 8 spots and got 3 hits, you lost (get back 0 credits).
\n\t(b) If you selected 8 spots and got 7 hits, you win 1,670 credits (1670x25cents).<\/p>\n
\tQuestion:
\n\t(1) What is the optimum number of spots to play for the best returns?
\n\t(2) What number of spots would be fruitless to select?
\n\t(3) Is this payscale unusual, more player friendly than normal?
\n\t(4) Any other insights or questions?<\/p>\n
\tThe payscale:<\/p>\n
\t ……………… S P O T S selected ……………..
\n\t……….1….2…..3…..4…..5……6……7…….8…..9…….10
\n\t 1 hit ….3
\n\t 2 hits …….15…..2…..2
\n\t 3 hits ………….48…..5…..3…..3……1
\n\t 4 hits ………………100 …13…..4……2…….2…….1
\n\t 5 hits …………………… 838… 75….22……13…… 6…… 5
\n\t 6 hits ………………………..1,660..422…..100….. 44….. 24
\n\t 7 hits ……………………………..7,000..1,670…..362….146
\n\t 8 hits ……………………………………10,000..4,700..1,000
\n\t 9 hits …………………………………………..10,000..4,500
\n\t10 hits …………………………………………………10,000<\/p>\n
Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on March 13, 2015, 4:24 pm<\/p>\n \tJust a little thought from the peanut gallery.<\/p>\n \tDoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on March 13, 2015, 5:27 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on March 13, 2015, 5:47 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on March 13, 2015, 11:52 pm<\/p>\n "SevenTimesSeven" wrote:<\/strong> <\/p>\n \tQuestion: \tThe payscale:<\/p>\n \t ……………… S P O T S selected …………….. \t[pre]Number \tExpected 75.0 90.2 94.4 94.8 94.9 95.0 94.9 94.9 91.6 93.2 \tAnswers: \tPlaying 6 spots provides the best return, 3, 4, 5, 7 and 8 are not bad. (But see my response to question 4 below)<\/p>\n \t(2) What number of spots would be fruitless to select? <\/p>\n \tPlaying 1 is horrible, 2, 9 and 10 are bad but not as poor as 1.<\/p>\n \t(3) Is this payscale unusual, more player friendly than normal?<\/p>\n \tIt is much better than the paper game. But the pace is a lot faster so unless you pace it like the paper game you will lose more in the long run because of the speed with which you are losing.<\/p>\n \t(4) Any other insights or questions?<\/p>\n \tFollow Doc’s advice regarding video poker. The HA on this game is much worse than on VP. You can not get an advantage at this game. If you know someone who must play this game make sure it is for small stakes. Set loss limits and win limits. Use gambling money management techniques (which are significantly different from an advantage player in craps).<\/p>\n \tIn question 1 you asked about what provides the best return and that is 6 spots. But the variance is much lower when playing 3 or 4 spots by a factor of 10 over playing 6 spots. I think it would be better to play 4 spots to keep the fluctuation in your money lower even though you are giving up 0.1% in expected return.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on March 15, 2015, 2:38 pm<\/p>\n \tThe "returns" often stated for Keno (or for any other game?) may be assumed \t7×7<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> brothelman on March 15, 2015, 11:38 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on March 15, 2015, 11:45 pm<\/p>\n "brothelman" wrote:<\/strong> Where is this keno game at.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n \tBM, I went to a lot of trouble to create this post (as a draft) in "CRAPS" and couldn’t figure how to transfer it to "OTHER GAMES". Sorry to present it here: I imagine this to be a math\/statistics\/probability\/odds problem. So…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":63,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8741","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8741","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/63"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8741"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8741\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8741"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8741"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8741"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
\n\tYou answered question (4).
\n\tAfter the anticipated inputs for the other questions,
\n\tI have a surprise revelation.
\n\t7×7<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\tI stated:
\n\t"The Keno video machine randomly flags 10 winners among the 80 numbers."
\n\tShouldn’t that have read .."20 winners". .. ?
\n\tRight?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\t(1) What is the optimum number of spots to play for the best returns?
\n\t(2) What number of spots would be fruitless to select?
\n\t(3) Is this payscale unusual, more player friendly than normal?
\n\t(4) Any other insights or questions?<\/p>\n
\n\t……….1….2…..3…..4…..5……6……7…….8…..9…….10
\n\t 1 hit ….3
\n\t 2 hits …….15…..2…..2
\n\t 3 hits ………….48…..5…..3…..3……1
\n\t 4 hits ………………100 …13…..4……2…….2…….1
\n\t 5 hits …………………… 838… 75….22……13…… 6…… 5
\n\t 6 hits ………………………..1,660..422…..100….. 44….. 24
\n\t 7 hits ……………………………..7,000..1,670…..362….146
\n\t 8 hits ……………………………………10,000..4,700..1,000
\n\t 9 hits …………………………………………..10,000..4,500
\n\t10 hits …………………………………………………10,000<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
\n\tof Spots 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10<\/p>\n
\n\tReturn %[\/pre]<\/p>\n
\n\t(1) What is the optimum number of spots to play for the best returns? <\/p>\n
\n\tThanks for your input.
\n\tThe surprise revelation I promised was this:
\n\tSince my craps practice was showing my SRR as being that of a Randy,
\n\tI backed off playing craps and tried the Jacks-or-Better Video Poker.
\n\tBut then during the course of so many visits at the same VP machine
\n\tI came to know the regular Keno player sitting next to me.
\n\tIn trying to win him over to the GTC way I found that he was,
\n\tthank you, doing so well at his Keno that I eventually called his machine
\n\this piggy bank. You know what that means.
\n\tOne day even while I was playing my Jack-or-Better, within a few hopurs
\n\the hit two hand-payout jackpots!
\n\tAnd I confidently expect at least one hand-payout at his every session at VK.<\/p>\n
\n\teasily by most to indicate which game is worth playing.
\n\tBut this is disputed by David Stratton writing on the website "CasinoCanter.com".
\n\tHe argues that video Keno is a better bet than video Poker, comparing
\n\tpayback returns vs the odds of achieving those returns.
\n\tVery interesting, since I was wondering how come my Keno friend is doing so well
\n\tvs my VP efforts. Up to this point I was thinking there was and is some electronic
\n\tor machanical fault in his machine and I advised him to milk his piggy bank while
\n\tit lasted, before the guys upstairs find out.<\/p>\n
\n\tCannot say, on this site.
\n\tI was interested to know whether this machine was more user-friendly than others.
\n\tDo you know? Is the payscale very liberal?
\n\t7×7<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"