{"id":8646,"date":"2015-02-11T17:02:36","date_gmt":"2015-02-11T17:02:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/02\/11\/practice-practice-practice\/"},"modified":"2015-02-11T17:02:36","modified_gmt":"2015-02-11T17:02:36","slug":"practice-practice-practice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/02\/11\/practice-practice-practice\/","title":{"rendered":"Practice-Practice-Practice"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nDom says it- Mr.Finesse says it- Billy and Darrell they say it.  And many of you on the board say it. I want to thank all of you for encouraging practice and Especially all the posters  that record and post all their stories for all of us to share.<\/p>\n<p>\tDo you know why? There are many ways to Influence others with the Phychology of Persuasion with comments and actions that can lead the stuborn to get an answer, get a result, get someone to act on that small comment and all the super posts about the &quot;Practice Session&quot;.<\/p>\n<p>\tI do not post often, but I do study this game of dice and I get encouaged by all of you in what  you do in practice and  the guidence to get better. Can anyone top Skinny&#8217;s encouragement or anlyisis of a problem in the tosses that we throw, or the percentage and mathimatics of the game. I have been doing this dice control for a long time. Dom, Bob, Darrel, Arman, Billy and the other instructors and assistant are my mentors. All you posters encourage ME by your well written practice or live game posts.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo, I want to thank all of you that I even have not met in person. I practice better and get going on my practice sessions espiecially before we have a class. 2015 is ready to &quot;KICK OFF&quot; for our new year.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo, if you have not signed up yet for this class, get ready for the next classes. And keep posting because you are making me better along with all the other &quot;GTC Types&quot;<\/p>\n<p>\tCan&#8217;t wait to see my older friends and meet the new ones. So, Good fortune to all of you in and out of the Casino&#8217;s.<br \/>\n\tAnd Practice-Practice-Practice !!<\/p>\n<p>\tNick@Night<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MIDNIGHT on February 12, 2015, 12:20 am<\/p>\n<div>What a great post and like you say as well as everyone else, practice does make perfect. I try to get at least 3 hours a week in. More in the nicer weather because my table is in my garage. Although it is heated, it still gets chilly. <\/p>\n<p>\tCan&#8217;t wait to play next to you in a couple of weeks. Practice so we can try to out throw each other. <\/p>\n<p>\tMidnight<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TommyC on February 12, 2015, 2:29 am<\/p>\n<div>My new table should be ready any time, I have not practiced recently as I have in the past, but I will go forward with a vengeance when my tables arrives.  See you soon, and yes Mr Finness  I still practice my grip daily.  lol<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on February 12, 2015, 3:24 pm<\/p>\n<div>Tommy, you had better continue to practice your grip or Finesse will kick your ***.<\/p>\n<p>\tJust kidding .  Hope to see your soon.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoc and Rose<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on February 12, 2015, 7:34 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;TommyC&quot; wrote:<\/strong>  &#8230;.  See you soon, and yes Mr Finness  I still practice my grip daily.  lol<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\tMay I ask, TC, exactly what and how do you practice your grip? C or U grip?<br \/>\n\tAnd why your grip may be so not-consistent for you to practice so much?<br \/>\n\tPlease enlighten us, as to exactly what your grip looks like.<br \/>\n\tAppreciate your answer. Thanks.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TommyC on February 13, 2015, 3:43 pm<\/p>\n<div>I assume you have not been through a tune up with Mr Finesse.  He finally drove it through my thick head, and my familys head, that you can practice your grip sitting at a redlight, while eating breakfast, deer hunting, ( duck hunting and fishing is a little tough), waiting to pick up kids from school, you really can get some looks at some of the school activity&#8217;s,  all you have to do is keep several sets of dice around and a pair in your pocket\/purse.  Your throw starts here if your grip is wrong all is wrong.  C\/U does not matter its your grip, and it needs to be perfect.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TommyC on February 13, 2015, 3:54 pm<\/p>\n<div>Mr Finesse has explained to me in his soft spoken, very low key, smiling, voice numerous times, how the mistakes I continue to make affect the outcome of the end result, sometimes in such a low tone that the whole room stops so they can hear each word.  lol<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on February 13, 2015, 8:05 pm<\/p>\n<div>I love it Tommy.<\/p>\n<p>\tGrip is where it all begins and ends.  As I have said in class if the grip is not perfect the odds of having a good toss decrease tremendously.  Every once in a while one will have a good toss or even a few in a row.<\/p>\n<p>\tBut-BUT- in the long run you will not be successful and most say the GTC does not work.  those who practice grip do know better.<\/p>\n<p>\t95 % of my practice is Grip.<\/p>\n<p>\tWhen we start a refresher class what are the first few things I look at.  <br \/>\n\tSet up<br \/>\n\tSquaring<br \/>\n\tCentering<br \/>\n\tGrip<br \/>\n\tToss<\/p>\n<p>\tNotice what is last and this is what most look at first.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on February 13, 2015, 8:17 pm<\/p>\n<div>TC,<\/p>\n<p>\tWith due respect, you haven&#8217;t answered my questions.<br \/>\n\tAll on this board would benefit from your take on the topic.<br \/>\n\tCan we hold our breath in anticipation?<br \/>\n\tThanks in advance.<\/p>\n<p>\t7&#215;7<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on February 13, 2015, 8:25 pm<\/p>\n<div>C grip or U grip.<br \/>\n\tThis is an individual thing.  <br \/>\n\tDom uses a High top edge C grip, I can not,  I use a mid-point U grip.   What is good for you?  I don&#8217;t know but I can figure it out in a class or a Tune-up.<\/p>\n<p>\tThis is something that needs work and it is not easy to figure out.<\/p>\n<p>\tIf this does not help  give me a call, I put my phone number in another post today.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Bigdaddy-Revs on February 14, 2015, 6:21 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>C grip or U grip.<br \/>\n\tThis is an individual thing. <br \/>\n\tDom uses a High top edge C grip, I can not, I use a mid-point U grip. What is good for you? I don&#8217;t know but I can figure it out in a class or a Tune-up.<\/p>\n<p>\tThis is something that needs work and it is not easy to figure out.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tFinesse, this statement you made seems simple enough, but it literally made worlds of difference for me.  After reading this and rereading my notes from my primer class, i realized that i was using more of a C grip when i should have been using more of a U grip, based on the critiques you gave me.  Ive been focused on using a U grip more, and while its a small sample of about 800 rolls, my SRR has gone from 6.2 in 5000+ previous rolls to 7.1 in those 800 rolls (yes, i know i need a sample 5-7 times larger to get a more accurate idea of my  SRR).  What i have noticed, however, is that i double pitch MUCH less than before, and my dice are on axis more.  In addition, my primary hits have gone up about 20%.  <\/p>\n<p>\tI cant wait for my refresher class in AC.  Not only will i get to see everyone, but im fully confident that my throw will improve leaps and bounds again!<\/p>\n<p>\t~C<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on February 14, 2015, 6:48 pm<\/p>\n<div>Music to me ears.  See you in a few weeks.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on February 14, 2015, 9:49 pm<\/p>\n<div>BC,<\/p>\n<p>\tGood to see that this thread is yielding some benefits, for all to learn.<br \/>\n\tThanks for posting.<br \/>\n\tAnyone else?<\/p>\n<p>\t7&#215;7<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on February 15, 2015, 4:14 am<\/p>\n<div>KnickatNight I wish that you would post more . I think that you would add a lot to this forum in different ways . But that is up to you and I hope to get to roll with you some day . I came real close just after I took the class . But had to go eat when I saw you at a table .<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MIDNIGHT on February 15, 2015, 11:28 pm<\/p>\n<div>I agree with Finisher. I would love to see you post more often. As far as shooting with Nick, he is the greatest lefty shooter I have ever seen. His grip and set is so quick and motionless. It&#8217;s beautiful. I shoot sr2 as a righty so I&#8217;ve stood next to him on many occasions and I just love watching him throw. It&#8217;s so pretty. Definitely worth trying to be at a table with him. Ok, enough steam blown up his butt by me. I don&#8217;t want his head to float away. <\/p>\n<p>\tMidnight<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dom says it- Mr.Finesse says it- Billy and Darrell they say it. And many of you on the board say it. 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