{"id":8501,"date":"2015-01-11T01:05:12","date_gmt":"2015-01-11T01:05:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/01\/11\/tracking-wins-losses\/"},"modified":"2015-01-11T01:05:12","modified_gmt":"2015-01-11T01:05:12","slug":"tracking-wins-losses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2015\/01\/11\/tracking-wins-losses\/","title":{"rendered":"Tracking Wins  Losses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI had been using the Gamblers Anonymous iPhone app to track my play, but it is not supported and keeps crashing.  <\/p>\n<p>\tI&#8217;m looking for a new app to use.  I found two that looked  promising &#8211; &#8216;my 401G&#8217; &amp; &#8216;Gamble Diary&#8217;.  Is anybody using either one and any comments?<\/p>\n<p>\tThomash <br \/>\n\tCleveland Crew<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on January 11, 2015, 12:50 pm<\/p>\n<div>Don&#8217;t know of another app and have never used the ones you mentioned but look forward to what others may post.  Just wonder if Smart Craps has the ability to track our play.<\/p>\n<p>\tDpc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on January 11, 2015, 7:57 pm<\/p>\n<div>What about a good old fashion note pad and then transfer info onto a spread sheet on your computer.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on January 13, 2015, 12:52 am<\/p>\n<div>Not sure what you&#8217;re trying to capture at the table, I know we can&#8217;t document roll by roll (or can we), but I use my phone to text message myself what I did.  I doc the CF rolls as I keep $100 in the top rail and my money in the bottom.  I then note my rolls and final $$$, along with any notes.<br \/>\n\texample: $500 buy in my rolls count against 400 starting point, CF from 100<\/p>\n<p>\tCasino name, Table 4, SL2<br \/>\n\tCF to 114<br \/>\n\t13r to 642 multiple fours<\/p>\n<p>\tCF to 89<br \/>\n\tCF to 27 bet too many numbers idiot!<br \/>\n\t11r to 672  too many craps<\/p>\n<p>\tCash out 699.  Maybe doc an overall lesson learned if I was too aggressive overall or such.<br \/>\n\tI don&#8217;t note the tips, it&#8217;s part of the cost of a roll<\/p>\n<p>\tI spend about 20 seconds after a roll and after counting my chips, take a minute, then step back and record hit new line and turn phone off.  If I play with someone who looks like an advantage player but not known as one of us, then I&#8217;ll record as ADV or us as GT* to that I can see if I&#8217;ve ID&#8217;d and it makes any difference in results.  I then record this in Excel where I&#8217;m tracking my short and to be illustrious craps career.<\/p>\n<p>\tCan we do any more than that at the table?  Is what I do too much?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on January 13, 2015, 1:25 am<\/p>\n<div>You might also want to keep track of the length of time for each session.  It could help you in analyzing your play to see what is the optimum amount of time for success.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> GreenMachine on January 13, 2015, 3:26 am<\/p>\n<div>Im using my 401 G this year. like it.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> OneMoonCircles on January 13, 2015, 6:36 am<\/p>\n<div>I have a book that I designed to record rolls. It has the date, casino and room for the time if you wish. I don&#8217;t use it much. I have a grid of 120 rolls. I put the number rolled, if a hardway I underline it, points made get circled. Seven outs get an X with a cross bar for a star and breaks up the numbers. Easy to count later.<\/p>\n<p>\tMost casinos have no problem with it on the rail. Actually I recorded what at the time was my best in a casino of 47 rolls. Filling it out does not interfere with my rhythm but becomes just a part of it. It is about 5&quot; x 5&quot; and coil bound. Fits a jacket pocket nicely.<\/p>\n<p>\tWhat I do now is use a checkbook register to track my bankroll. In the check column is amount of the buy-in, later I count and enter money I came home with<br \/>\n\t then take previous balance, subtract buy-in and add come home money for a new total and all  on the same line. Simple, works. You also have room for the date and can add comments in the check payable to area.<\/p>\n<p>\tOMC<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TheLion on January 13, 2015, 4:01 pm<\/p>\n<div>Mr. Finesse &#8212; that&#8217;s exactly what we did for FY 2014<\/p>\n<p>\tIt was amazing to see the numbers and trends &#8212; the places where the good wins were at &#8212; and where we had our bad losses<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Goldfinger on January 13, 2015, 5:19 pm<\/p>\n<div>When Butch and Lefty play it is usually just a day trip. They go to the casinos with their daily loss limit only in their pocket. They share a bankroll and buy in for the same amount each time. After each session if one wins more than the other the money is then evened up. This shared bankroll offsets the five count where one player could have three hits before the other gets into the game. The ups and downs are a lot smoother.<br \/>\n\tWith just three good tables to play in the whole city it is easy to keep track of table conditions. They have a designated route to follow each day and the first table with spots available is where they play. by playing every week they know the tables well. One table actually counts the rolls for them.longest roll of the day wins $50. The last trip up Butch had a 31 but it got posted as a 28.<\/p>\n<p>\tWins and losses are recorded by either putting money in the sock drawer or taking it out.<\/p>\n<p>\tGoldfinger<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> billythekid on January 13, 2015, 7:02 pm<\/p>\n<div>Thomas,<\/p>\n<p>\tI was also using the  Gamblers Anonymous app. The great Bill Burton was the first one to show me that app.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe idea and function was great because you, as the user, could enter lots of different information and structure it in any way that you wanted. The problem was, because the user had so many options, as the file grew larger it became unstable and would crash and you would have to reload the app which was a pain. I never lost any information but worried about it a lot and would email files often to protect my data.<\/p>\n<p>\tNow you can&#8217;t even reload the app from itunes or the app store. I guess the maker has given up on supporting it.<\/p>\n<p>\tI looked at and tried a number of apps after this apps demise and have settled on 2 that I use together.<\/p>\n<p>\tI use my401G as GreenMachine does. This app is very stable because the designer will not allow any customization by the user. The designer is very good about adding casinos to the database when you find one that is not listed but isn&#8217;t so inclined to add new games so that limits it somewhat for me since I play many different games and variations. It took some prodding ( I sent many emails ) but they finally added a notes feature which allows for custom entries. Since this function was added I have stopped looking for something else.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe other app that I use is documents free, which is a simple excel spreadsheet. This app only supports a few simple math functions but is a regular spreadsheet so you can enter whatever custom information that you require. <\/p>\n<p>\tI use my401G for quick after session entries and then duplicate those entries in the documents app with expanded information later.<\/p>\n<p>\tBTK<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ThomasH on January 14, 2015, 1:48 am<\/p>\n<div>BTK<\/p>\n<p>\tYou had the same problems I had with Gamblers Anonymous.  <\/p>\n<p>\tI will get My401g and give it a try.  I glad to hear it has a place for notes.  I keep track of my roll the way Skinny does and with Gamblers Anonymous I would step away from the table after my roll and enter the data into the notes.<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks for the information.  <\/p>\n<p>\tTom<br \/>\n\tCleveland Crew<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on January 16, 2015, 10:37 pm<\/p>\n<div>Looks like my401g is an iapp only, I don&#8217;t see it on the android play store.  Anyone know differently?<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had been using the Gamblers Anonymous iPhone app to track my play, but it is not supported and keeps crashing. I&#8217;m looking for a new app to use. 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