{"id":8119,"date":"2014-10-08T19:08:33","date_gmt":"2014-10-08T19:08:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/10\/08\/breaking-news-poker-pro-ivey-did-cheat-to-win-12-4-million-judge-rules\/"},"modified":"2014-10-08T19:08:33","modified_gmt":"2014-10-08T19:08:33","slug":"breaking-news-poker-pro-ivey-did-cheat-to-win-12-4-million-judge-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/10\/08\/breaking-news-poker-pro-ivey-did-cheat-to-win-12-4-million-judge-rules\/","title":{"rendered":"Breaking News: Poker Pro Ivey Did Cheat to Win $12.4 Million, Judge Rules"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\n(Bloomberg) \u2014 Professional poker player Phil Ivey\u2019s use of edge sorting to win 7.7 million pounds ($12.4 million) at a form of Baccarat was tantamount to cheating, a London judge ruled today.<\/p>\n<p>\tJudge John Mitting, who said Ivey was an honest witness, ruled against the 38-year-old gambler\u2019s bid to recoup money a Genting Bhd. casino had withheld. While he might not have realized it was cheating, Mitting said Ivey and a companion influenced a croupier to deal the cards in certain ways.<\/p>\n<p>\tIvey, a 10-time winner of the World Series of Poker tournament, won the money playing Punto Banco at Genting\u2019s Crockfords casino in London. He argued that edge sorting was a legitimate tactic to gain an advantage over the casino.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cHe gave himself an advantage which the game precludes,\u201d Mitting said today following a week-long trial. \u201cThis is in my view cheating.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tGenting is Southeast Asia\u2019s largest casino operator with a market capitalization of about $35 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Last year it bought a Las Vegas site, once home to the Stardust resort, for $350 million.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cWe attach the greatest importance to our exemplary reputation for fair, honest and professional conduct and today\u2019s ruling vindicates the steps we have taken in this matter,\u201d Crockfords said in an e-mailed statement after the verdict.<\/p>\n<p>\t2012 Game<\/p>\n<p>\tBoth sides agreed at trial that Ivey was in the casino in August 2012 and that he won the money. \u201cThe issue is whether it amounted to cheating,\u201d Christopher Pymont, Genting\u2019s lawyer, said in documents filed at London\u2019s High Court.<\/p>\n<p>\tEdge sorting is a way a card player can gain an advantage by working out the value of a card by spotting flaws or particular patterns on the back of some cards.<\/p>\n<p>\tIvey and a companion unfairly influenced a croupier to move and deal the cards in certain ways without her knowing what she was doing, the judge said.<\/p>\n<p>\tIvey cheated \u201cby using the croupier as his innocent agent or tool,\u201d Mitting said.<\/p>\n<p>\tIvey has career earnings of more than $21 million from live tournaments alone, according to his website. The judge described him as one of the \u201cworld\u2019s finest poker players.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tIvey describes himself as an \u201cadvantage player,\u201d someone who is highly skilled at trying to tip the odds in his favor.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cIt is not in my nature to cheat,\u201d Ivey said through a spokesman after today\u2019s ruling. \u201cI believe what we did was nothing more than exploit Crockford\u2019s failures. Clearly the judge did not agree.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tJudge Mitting turned down Ivey\u2019s permission to appeal his verdict.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u2013With assistance from Kit Chellel in London.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on October 8, 2014, 8:22 pm<\/p>\n<div>We as players&#8211;advantage and otherwise&#8211;don&#8217;t bring the casinos and their employees to raise.  The casinos should know about these things and  train their employees to know about this.  Just my humble opinion.  Pay the man.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> sevenout on October 8, 2014, 9:05 pm<\/p>\n<div>If it was indeed &quot;cheating&quot;, wouldn&#8217;t the casino bring legal charges against Ivey?<\/p>\n<p>\tIf they cannot prove their case for cheating, how can they get away with not paying?<\/p>\n<p>\tDoesn&#8217;t pass the smell test to me.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Bloomberg) \u2014 Professional poker player Phil Ivey\u2019s use of edge sorting to win 7.7 million pounds ($12.4 million) at a form of Baccarat was tantamount to cheating, a London judge ruled today. 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