{"id":804,"date":"2012-06-13T02:25:26","date_gmt":"2012-06-13T02:25:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/06\/13\/on-axis-but-not-the-hardway-set\/"},"modified":"2012-06-13T02:25:26","modified_gmt":"2012-06-13T02:25:26","slug":"on-axis-but-not-the-hardway-set","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/06\/13\/on-axis-but-not-the-hardway-set\/","title":{"rendered":"On axis but not the Hardway set."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI had an experience once when playing; after 4 throws I was told \u201cthe boss doesn\u2019t allow dice setting, please stop setting.\u201d  I did and moved on.  Now the question.<\/p>\n<p>\tSometimes to alter my practice I go through the following:<\/p>\n<p>\t. . . the dice are pushed to the thrower (me) and I move\/rotate each die so the 1 and 6 are on axis but, not in a Hardway set  and no one is complaining.  Does an axis set become almost as strong to avoid the seven as a Hardway set?  <\/p>\n<p>\tIs this the <em>Dice Correspondence<\/em>  Frank and Dom write about in <u><strong>Advanced Strategies pp 90.  <br \/>\n\t<\/strong><\/u><br \/>\n\tFor fun I practice this but have not put it into Smart Craps because it is not the Hardway Set.  I do not any numbers to share.  Seems to work well when on axis but what doesn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>\tAny thoughts, advise or insights would be appreciated.  Thanks  Set44  \u2753<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Stickman on June 13, 2012, 12:01 pm<\/p>\n<div>Hi Set44,<\/p>\n<p>\tGreat questions!<\/p>\n<p>\tIf you put the 1 and 6 on the axis (I am assuming they are facing the same way) but you do not have a hardway set &#8211; or if the 1 and 6 are on axis facinf opposite directions; you do not have as much protection against the dreaded 7 as if you set a hardway set. The reason for this is with the hardway set one die has to move <strong>two<\/strong> faces relative to the other in order to get a 7. It doesn&#8217;t matter which direction the movement is &#8211; it requires a two face movement relative to the other die. If you are not setting the hardway set &#8211; even though the 1 and 6 are on axis &#8211; there will be situations where one die only has to move one face relative to the other die to produce a 7.<\/p>\n<p>\tAs for your other question, this is not dice correspondence as detailed in the book. Dive correspondence is when the dice move at an angle to each other but move the same amount. The results are as good as if they came straight back from the wall the same distance.<\/p>\n<p>\tI hope that answers your questions satisfactorily.<\/p>\n<p>\tJerry<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> sevenout on June 14, 2012, 4:45 am<\/p>\n<div>If the table was really nice to play on, you can try to ask the stick to send the dice out with your &quot;lucky&quot; numbers&quot;. Some will do this after they realize you have &quot;dealers on the line&quot;.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Set44 on June 14, 2012, 12:35 pm<\/p>\n<div>Thank You.  The answers and suggestions are most appreciated.  We are always learning when on the GTC Forum.<br \/>\n\tSet44   \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had an experience once when playing; after 4 throws I was told \u201cthe boss doesn\u2019t allow dice setting, please stop setting.\u201d I did and moved on. Now the question. 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