{"id":7723,"date":"2014-07-25T16:53:54","date_gmt":"2014-07-25T16:53:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/07\/25\/a-change-in-betting-strategy-for-me\/"},"modified":"2014-07-25T16:53:54","modified_gmt":"2014-07-25T16:53:54","slug":"a-change-in-betting-strategy-for-me","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/07\/25\/a-change-in-betting-strategy-for-me\/","title":{"rendered":"A Change In Betting Strategy For Me"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI want to post this, because I think I&#8217;ve given people the idea that I am a rigid 6\/8 leverage player.   Up to very recently&#8230;a few days ago, really, this has been true.  For a long time, I had been trying to figure out how to ease into a game with come bets but still get spread to the vacant box numbers fairly quickly.  I think I&#8217;ve found my compromise and it is this, by way of example on a $10 table:<\/p>\n<p>\tThe point is Five.  <br \/>\n\tPut full odds on the Five.<br \/>\n\tCome #1 bet goes to Six<br \/>\n\tPut up full odds.<br \/>\n\tCome #2 goes to 10.<br \/>\n\tPut up full odds.<\/p>\n<p>\tAt this point full risk is $150.  Very similar to my 6\/8 game with full odds on the point if it is not 6\/8. The only advantage you&#8217;d have by putting up 6 and 8 for $60 right away is that if one of those hit early, you wouldn&#8217;t have had to wait for a come bet to get on the number; however, an early 7 offsets that advantage a bit, in my experience.  Can&#8217;t speak for the math on that.  The play would go something like this:<\/p>\n<p>\n\tFirst hit, rack the win and make another come bet.<br \/>\n\tSo let&#8217;s say Hit #1 is Six.<br \/>\n\tRack the $70 and make a come bet.<br \/>\n\tCome bet goes to Nine.  Full odds again. 3 bets on the layout.<br \/>\n\tHit #2 is the Five .. the point. Rack the win<br \/>\n\tNext come out is the Five again.  Full odds back on the Five.<br \/>\n\t6 and 8 are now open, so I place $30 on one of those, probably the Six because I just hit it earlier.  The hit on the 5 was my second hit.<br \/>\n\tSo now I&#8217;ve got the same come bets but now an additonal place bet on the Six which I&#8217;ll press to $60 when it hits..<br \/>\n\tNet full hit is the 10.  I rack the win and Place the 10 for $50 and move $30 to the 8.  Only the 4 is now open and there are now only 2 come bets that are at the mercy of a comeout 7. <br \/>\n\tThe idea is to begin converting especially the inside box numbers beginning with the second &#8216;natural&#8217; full odds hit.<br \/>\n\tThis approach has been giving me 3 &#8211; 4, sometimes more rolls, before getting into full risk on the layout.  Early 7s don&#8217;t kill you like they do when you start with a point with full odds and a $60 6 &amp; 8.<\/p>\n<p>\tJust thought I&#8217;d share this, because it is working.  I&#8217;m sure some of you are doing something similar, but this seems to be keeping the early risk down but leaving me open for a fat roll.  So&#8230;have I seen the come betting light?  Well&#8230;kinda&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\tKeep On Rollin&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>\tAlamo<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on July 25, 2014, 9:46 pm<\/p>\n<div>Tex, very similar to what Rose and Doc use.  Keeps the very early 7 outs to a minimum loss but gets you in a position to make some $$$ with a long roll.  Also if the roller&#8211;you or another GTC player you know is the roller&#8211;gets a good roll going, come betting will find any number the roller is consistently hitting.  <\/p>\n<p>\tRose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> The Breeze on July 26, 2014, 3:24 am<\/p>\n<div>I just ran about 500+ simulations with a random generator and it looks like a plan. You may want to use it on other GTC shooters as well. The results may turn me into a come bettor after all. <\/p>\n<p>\tMay the Force be with You! Let&#8217;s get a good report from Vegas!<\/p>\n<p>\tIt&#8217;s all about the data.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> AlamoTx on July 26, 2014, 2:19 pm<\/p>\n<div>Right now, very unscientifically, I am playing two betting hands simultaneously to see what the difference in strategies yields.  One hand is the come betting side that I wrote about earlier and the other is the 6\/8 centered strategy with a full odds natural if the point is something other than 6\/8.  I&#8217;m hitting an pressing the 6 and 8 immediately and beginning to spread on the first hit at the pressed up level.  Come betting in the other hand and spreading on the 2d or third full hit.  The evidence will be strictly empirical, but it might show me some $ correlation regarding the gain or loss differentials in the two samples.<\/p>\n<p>\tKeep On Rollin&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>\tAlamo<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I want to post this, because I think I&#8217;ve given people the idea that I am a rigid 6\/8 leverage player. Up to very recently&#8230;a few days ago, really, this has been true. For a long time, I had been&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7723","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7723","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/18"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7723"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7723\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7723"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7723"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7723"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}