{"id":7492,"date":"2014-06-09T01:58:31","date_gmt":"2014-06-09T01:58:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/06\/09\/interesting-conversation\/"},"modified":"2014-06-09T01:58:31","modified_gmt":"2014-06-09T01:58:31","slug":"interesting-conversation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/06\/09\/interesting-conversation\/","title":{"rendered":"Interesting conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nWhile in West Texas for my grand daughters ballet recital, I had the opportunity to visit with my brother&#8217;s son&#8212;he took the GTC primer course a couple of years ago. Unfortunately he has not followed up much on his craps but he has gotten into live poker in the casino poker room.  <\/p>\n<p>\tHe took a poker boot camp a few months ago and this seems to be his direction at this time.  They taught him a whole new way to play.  He entered a Senior (over 50)  WSOP tournament with a $1000 buy in with 6000 participants.  He placed 67th and won a little over $6,000.<\/p>\n<p>\tHere is the interesting part of our conversation.  He said that in the poker the boot camp, that they said a study had been made and that of all of the major professional players only win 25% of the time.  I don&#8217;t mean winning the tournament 25% of the time, but playing well enough to place and win some money 25% of the time.  That means that they pay their buy in and win nothing 75% of the time!!!<\/p>\n<p>\tWe say in GTC that if you will do what we say, practice, take other courses from time to time you will become a &quot;300 hitter.&quot;  About the same as the top professional poker players.  AND guess what, in the poker boot camp they also stress bank roll and proper betting. <\/p>\n<p>\t I would be willing to wager that card counters only win about 25% to 30% of the time.<\/p>\n<p>\tFound this interesting and wanted to share.  So don&#8217;t sweat the short time losses.  Remember in the all run all of these players&#8211;craps, poker and BF card counting win in the long run.  <\/p>\n<p>\tDoc<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Scan on June 10, 2014, 1:29 am<\/p>\n<div>Great insight<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks,Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Pit Boss on June 10, 2014, 10:27 pm<\/p>\n<div>Doc:<\/p>\n<p>\tAs an avid poker player over the last ten years, I can tell you with assured certainty that 25% win rate at tournaments is EXTREMELY high. The number for most players is about 10%.<\/p>\n<p>\tIn Fact, I was lightening to a podcast about the win loss ratios of professional poker players, there are currently only three players that have 25% of the tournaments they have cashed in.  You can listen to the podcast here. <a href=\"http:\/\/pokercast.twoplustwo.com\/listen_and_browse.php\">http:\/\/pokercast.twoplustwo.com\/listen_and_browse.php<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on June 11, 2014, 6:48 pm<\/p>\n<div>Pit Boss, I don&#8217;t dispute the 10% cashing in by pro poker players.  Funny how the numbers seem to be so low.  <\/p>\n<p>\tBut remember when we win we usually win much more than we lose. I know that that is true for Rose and Doc.  <\/p>\n<p>\n\tDoc<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TommyC on June 13, 2014, 2:09 pm<\/p>\n<div>I would guess those numbers are lower for video poker.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> TommyC on June 13, 2014, 2:10 pm<\/p>\n<div>I would guess those numbers are lower for video poker.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on June 14, 2014, 6:02 am<\/p>\n<div>I started playing porker on line in 2012 . I won 5.00 in 2013 6 times for total of 50.00 and so far in 14 won one 5.00 .<br \/>\n\tI do not buy chips just pay to play every 3 mouths .<br \/>\n\tSome of the tournaments have over 1,000 players .<br \/>\n\tMy wife laughs at me when I tell her I won 5.00 . But it is fun and costs little since I never buy chips .<br \/>\n\tI play the 20.00 ones which you need to get to 3-5 for 5.00 win .<br \/>\n\tI have never played for real money at live table far from that at this point .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude42  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While in West Texas for my grand daughters ballet recital, I had the opportunity to visit with my brother&#8217;s son&#8212;he took the GTC primer course a couple of years ago. 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