\nPosted by Frank Scoblete<\/p>\n
\tThere\u2019s been a lot of debate about the placing of the 5 and 9, some of it quite intense, even with the calm and relaxed Dominator being called a hypocrite. Ouch! <\/p>\n
\tWell I am now going to settle this thing once and for all \u2013 or at least for the next few minutes while you read this. I am dealing with controlled shooters now, not random rollers. <\/p>\n
\tThere is no doubt that with a controlled shooter what happened in the past, meaning the shooters SRR and\/or SmartCraps results, does tell you something about what will happen in the future. If a shooter is reducing the appearance of the 7 he is obviously increasing the appearance of other numbers, maybe not all of the other numbers but certainly some of the other numbers. <\/p>\n
\tNow a controlled shooter, maybe even you, has just hit a few 5s (or 9s) in short order. Do you place the 5 in that case? The answer, startlingly, is yes\u2026and no. <\/p>\n
\tLet\u2019s take the \u201cno\u201d first. Is the appearance of those 5s enough to warrant a place bet against the large 4 percent house edge on a 5 (or 9)? Here is the unexpected answer: Forget that the shooter just rolled those 5s, the question you should ask yourself is this, \u201cIs that shooter\u2019s SRR and\/or SmartCraps results indicative of an ability to overcome a 4 percent house edge in the future?\u201d The answer to this is usually \u201cNo, he isn\u2019t good enough from this point on to overcome the 4 percent house edge on the 5.\u201d <\/p>\n
\tIt doesn\u2019t matter that he just hit some 5s, you have to look towards his future prospects based on the wealth of his past performance, not based on a few rolls that just happened. Most dice controllers past performances indicate that much more money can be made by placing the 6 and 8 and using Pass and Come betting. <\/p>\n
\tFor most dice controllers that settles the issue. DO NOT place bet the 5 and 9. The edge is too high, period. <\/p>\n
\tNow too many novice and intermediate dice controllers have a bloated concept of how good they are. They think, erroneously, that they can overcome the house edge on the 5 because the 5 just showed a few times. This is somewhat equivalent to the idiotic concept of \u201csee a horn, bet a horn\u201d proclaimed by the loud ploppies of craps, although the 5 does have a much smaller house edge than the 12.5 percent horn. <\/p>\n
\tCheck out our book \u201cGolden Touch Dice Control Revolution\u201d and you will see just what hefty kinds of SRRs you need to actually overcome the house edge on the 5 place bets. <\/p>\n
\tNow let me go to the \u201cyes\u201d place-the-5-side of the argument but first an absolutely important preface: <\/p>\n
\tMy son Mike, the genius, once told me how he achieved his 1600 on the SATs when 1600 was the perfect score and how he achieved a 99 average in a really demanding private school. (Mike received a Merit scholarship and got a BS in chemistry, then a Masters in Political Science, and is now a few credits away from his Doctorate in Literature.) <\/p>\n
\tMike said he was an \u201cactive listener\u201d in class. \u201cDad,\u201d he said, \u201cmost kids daydream during parts of the class or don\u2019t listen when other kids ask questions. If a class is 45 minutes you should pay close attention to those 45 minutes and you then get what you have to get to do well in school. In study hall you should study and reinforce what you just learned.\u201d <\/p>\n
\tIt worked for Mike; he almost never had school work to do at home since he had taken care of school in school. <\/p>\n
\tOkay, next example: Kids selectively listen to what teachers say. Take the sex talks that now seem de rigueur in public schools. Teachers say the following, \u201cYou shouldn\u2019t have sex but if you are going to have sex use a condom.\u201d <\/p>\n
\tWhat the kids hear is this: \u201cHave sex.\u201d The rest of the sentence is forgotten. <\/p>\n
\tCraps players, yes, even students of GTC, also have selective memories of the information we impart in class, on this web site, in our books and on our DVD. They look for ways to continue stupid betting practices by scrounging around for trend systems, \u201csee a horn, bet a horn\u201d systems, and other systems that essentially make them losers even if they have developed a controlled throw. <\/p>\n
\tSo what I write now is NOT to be selectively remembered. Remember it all or don\u2019t read it. <\/p>\n
\tIf you have elite \u2013 and I mean a really elite \u2013 controlled shooter such as No Field Five who has just hit several 5s in short order, then you can place bet the 5. Hey, why did he get the nickname No Field Five? <\/p>\n
\tThere aren\u2019t many shooters on this planet as good as No Field Five and I am guessing that none, not one, not a single one, of the posters who are advocating to \u201cgo with the flow\u201d or \u201cjump on the hot table\u201d can touch No Field Five\u2019s skill. These posters are delusional if they think they can match No Field Five\u2019s devastating performances on that high-house-edge wager. They can\u2019t. They are merely throwing their money away when they place bet the 5 (or 9). <\/p>\n
\tNow those of us who know No Field Five\u2019s performance level can safely say that in the future he has the ability to wipe out the house edge on that 5 and make us quite a bit of money doing so. We also know that when we start the betting on him, we do not bet the 5 because overall we still make more money on No Field Five\u2019s hitting of the 6 and 8. <\/p>\n
\tSo unless you are at the tables with a true master of dice control who is getting into a real streak, not an imagined one, then DO NOT place bet the 5 or 9. <\/p>\n
\tAnd do not selectively remember the above to think it gives you permission to follow the advice of new or intermediate dice controllers who now fancy themselves experts or of systems advocates. \u201cHave sex\u201d this ain\u2019t! <\/p>\n
\tThere is one more point that is somewhat profound. Advantage craps really shouldn\u2019t be looked at in the short run where numbers are appearing and disappearing with great frequency. It should be looked at globally over thousands, hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of rolls. When it is looked at that way, almost all controlled shooters will make much more money on the 6 and 8; on Come and Pass line bets, than they will on attempting to hop onto short term fluctuations happening now. The No Field Fives of the world are a rare breed indeed. <\/p>\n
\tSo my advice is this: Do not place the 5 and 9. If you wish to go with other numbers use the Come with a minimum of 5X odds. This formula is tried and true. This formula is truly the \u201ckeys to the casinos\u2019 money.\u201d <\/p>\n
\tAnd for those of you considering coming to our Golden Touch dice control classes get it into your heart and head that your mind has to be actively listening the whole time.<\/p>\n
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