{"id":6942,"date":"2014-02-07T15:38:45","date_gmt":"2014-02-07T15:38:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/02\/07\/casino-reporting-and-the-irs\/"},"modified":"2014-02-07T15:38:45","modified_gmt":"2014-02-07T15:38:45","slug":"casino-reporting-and-the-irs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2014\/02\/07\/casino-reporting-and-the-irs\/","title":{"rendered":"Casino reporting and the IRS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHere is a little information concerning this subject that I had not seen before.  We have known for sometime that the casino must report transaction of $10,000 or more with a mountain of paper work including player ID and other basic information and probably a form 1099.  What we just learned is that there is also some paper work for transactions at the cage between $3,000 and $10,000.  <\/p>\n<p>\tThis has more to do with money laundering and illegal transaction than reporting to the IRS gains and losses for tax purposes, but reporting the gains and losses is also a part of this reporting.<\/p>\n<p>\tIn no way do we or anyone in GTC encourage anyone to avoid reporting taxable wins but these numbers are important so keep them in mind.  Our attitude&#8212;report the gains and losses.  If you don&#8217;t, you may not have a monkey on your back but one mean ass gorilla instead.  <\/p>\n<p>\tAsk ACPA about this&#8212;he is the accountant.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoc and Alligator Rose<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> DavidM on February 7, 2014, 5:51 pm<\/p>\n<div>I ask my daughter (12), &quot;what is the FIRST thing you do?&quot;  Her answer is &quot;THINK, then pay attention.&quot; <br \/>\n\t                                 1.  Pumpkins get too much attention.<br \/>\n\t                                 2.  You are not required to cash in ALL of your chips quickly.<br \/>\n\t                                 3.  You personally are not required to cash in your chips quickly.<br \/>\n\t                                 4.  Wives enjoy cashing in chips. (with appropriate commission removed)<br \/>\n\t                                 5.  Big score is great for the ego. Are you really up for the year?  (keep records)<\/p>\n<p>\tOur game is absolutely the greatest game available, but it will eat you alive if you don&#8217;t pay attention.  <\/p>\n<p>\tShoot with passion&#8230;and grow a 401G<br \/>\n\tDavidM<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Pit Boss on February 7, 2014, 9:20 pm<\/p>\n<div>large denomination chips don&#8217;t draw too much attention when cased at the poker room either. I realize  not all poker rooms are the size of the Belaggio or Aria, but if they have a decent poker room, it occasional Flag (5K) will not draw attention. <\/p>\n<p>\tAnd as DavidM mentions, they don&#8217;t have to be cased all together.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on February 8, 2014, 2:52 am<\/p>\n<div>As Doc has said, all wins at the casino are taxable.<\/p>\n<p>\tI&#8217;ll add as I have in past posts on this subject.  It doesn&#8217;t matter whether you have any paperwork from the casino reporting the winning, the winning is part of your reportable income.  Doesn&#8217;t matter if you cash the chips at once, or over time in small amounts.<\/p>\n<p>\tAnd as Doc said, you may have a something on your back you don&#8217;t want, if you don&#8217;t report that win.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on February 8, 2014, 4:03 am<\/p>\n<div>They is a large sign in Caesars Windsor saying  &quot;We DO NOT tax your winnings&quot;  As a Canadian I have never had to worry about this problem (in Canada), but I assume that you United States citizens  would still have to declare any winning in Canada or Worldwide.<\/p>\n<p>\tACPA  am I correct?<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on February 8, 2014, 4:19 am<\/p>\n<div>You are right Cc Roller.  Actually your winnings in the states are taxable even to you as a Canadian.<\/p>\n<p>\tOff the top of my head, I don&#8217;t know how much your US source income would have to be before you would suppose to file a US tax return..<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here is a little information concerning this subject that I had not seen before. 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