\nI received a PM from a student asking for assistance on a problem with the toss. I believe others may have the same problem and could benefit from a discussion on this topic. I will give my advice and I encourage others to jump in with their ideas as well. Here is the question:<\/p>\n
\tI have been practicing and I noticed the right dice lands first and stops while the left dice continues on to the back wall and then comes back down. I don’t understand what I am doing wrong. Please advise. Thank You.<\/p>\n
Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on October 22, 2013, 3:18 am<\/p>\n \tAnother possibility is your grip is not loose enough. You may be gripping the right die tighter than the left die. The grip should only be tight enough to keep both dice in your fingers. They should feel like they are about to fall out of your fingers.<\/p>\n \tIf the one die is dying without hitting the back wall you may be throwing the dice too high with too much of an arc causing them to die too much when they land. If that is the case you need a little more energy in the swing and lower the arc a bit. A slightly and I mean ever so slightly bigger back swing (no more than an inch or so) might help. You can bring your hand back to your shoulder on the back swing but no further than that.<\/p>\n \tOthers may have additional ideas and I hope folks jump in with other suggestions.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Timmer on October 22, 2013, 3:07 pm<\/p>\n \tI found it interesting how consistent Skinny’s and my responses were to this student. I think this also reflects the consistency of GTC’s classes and teaching, instructor to instructor.<\/p>\n \tHere is my reply to the student:<\/p>\n \tRe: Having some trouble with the toss<\/p>\n \tSent: 21 Oct 2013 18:20 \tHard to diagnose from an email… Is this happening at home during practice or in the casino during live play?<\/p>\n \tCould be a grip issue – uneven front fingers, adding more revs to one die, unequal thumb imparting more energy on one die over the other…<\/p>\n \tAre you still using your gripper regularly? If not, get back in the habit of using it regularly…<\/p>\n \tAre you decelerating your arm during your swing trying for a softer toss? The throw and armswing should smoothly accelerate throughout the toss.<\/p>\n \tIf in the casino, are you playing on a [different suface] layout than at home? Perhaps a newly resurfaced table? – Different layouts can sometimes cause the dice to catch and\/or react strangely and inconsistently…<\/p>\n \tYou should post this problem on the craps board and ask for help from others.<\/p>\n \t \ud83d\ude0e \ud83d\ude0e \ud83d\ude0e<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> NofieldFive on October 23, 2013, 2:53 am<\/p>\n \tNFF<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Chuckman on October 23, 2013, 3:55 pm<\/p>\n \tPractice the grip with 4s on top 5s facing you. The pip pattern of the 5s will help you see how your thumb sits. Also thumbs can be tricky. It is not how the thumb looks straight on. It is how the thumb touches the dice. You have to look along the surface of the dice to see where the thumb actually touches.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on October 24, 2013, 5:43 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on October 24, 2013, 8:00 pm<\/p>\n \tHow many hours a week are you working on your grip???????<\/p>\n \tMost people work on their toss 99.9% of the time and maybe .01% on their grip. I think it should be 50 – 50 at the beginning and after 1 year maybe 75% toss and 25% grip.<\/p>\n \tNow I am about 90% grip and 10% toss.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> getagrip on October 24, 2013, 8:35 pm<\/p>\n "SevenTimesSeven" wrote:<\/strong> My humble suggestion, to check your grip, \n\t7X7,<\/p>\n \tI think you are on to something there. Great tip!<\/p>\n \tI can see men all across the nation suddenly becoming very interested in their wife’s makeup cabinet and color choices!! \ud83d\ude2e \ud83d\ude06 \ud83d\ude06 \ud83d\ude06<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Eagle Eye on October 24, 2013, 11:31 pm<\/p>\n \tI just finished my practice session. I hit 4 no.’s then 7. I hit 29 no.’s then 7. I hit 39 no.’s then 7. Shot getting back to normal.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on October 25, 2013, 2:59 am<\/p>\n \tKeep the questions coming.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Eagle Eye on October 29, 2013, 12:05 am<\/p>\n \tI just want to say thanks to everyone for their thoughts on the matter. I thought I was losing my shot. Thank God I didn’t lose it. I used the toothpicks and it helped my shot get back on track. Why? Because the toothpicks put my fingers and tips back in alignment. My shot looks and feels GREAT! Thanks to all!!! \ud83d\ude00 \ud83d\ude00 \ud83d\ude00<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" I received a PM from a student asking for assistance on a problem with the toss. I believe others may have the same problem and could benefit from a discussion on this topic. 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\n\t by Timmer<\/p>\n
\n\tis to use some cosmetic (blush?) powder on the tips and pads
\n\tof your fingers and thumb to detect where they are touching
\n\tthe dice when you grip them.
\n\tLooking at your fingers and thumb when they grip the dice won’t do.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\tis to use some cosmetic (blush?) powder on the tips and pads
\n\tof your fingers and thumb to detect where they are touching
\n\tthe dice when you grip them.
\n\tLooking at your fingers and thumb when they grip the dice won’t do.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n