\nAt some point in the class, are we yet looking into a slo-mo video of the
\n\tdice landing, hitting the wall and settling down?
\n\tIsn’t this the ultimate objective of the throw,
\n\t— not a helter-skelter, energetic, random splash of a show like mine? LOL<\/p>\n
Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on September 14, 2013, 2:10 pm<\/p>\n \tAlligator Rose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> MIDNIGHT on September 14, 2013, 9:33 pm<\/p>\n \tMichael<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on September 15, 2013, 12:28 am<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on September 15, 2013, 3:51 am<\/p>\n \tI guess I don’t understand the question either. Because I also thought you were asking for a video of the perfect throw to be shown in the class.<\/p>\n \tSo what is your question?<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on September 15, 2013, 7:34 am<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on September 15, 2013, 10:53 pm<\/p>\n "SevenTimesSeven" wrote:<\/strong> At some point in the class, are we yet looking into a slo-mo video of the \n\tThanks again for the answers to what was percieved as the question.<\/p>\n \tThe question was meant to ask whether there are any plans for the \tThanks again to you guys for your answers.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> billythekid on September 16, 2013, 6:59 pm<\/p>\n \tDepending on who is shooting and how they set up, there are times that you can clearly see what the dice are doing after they land from the rear camera view. <\/p>\n \tWe never concentrate on that aspect of the shot since after you have done your setup, grip, backswing and release you have done everything that you can possibly do to affect the shot. If you have done everything properly and the dice go straight to the back wall you have done your job to decrease the random components that the felt and wall add to the shot. There are times that you will see exactly what you want to see and other times that the dice go crazy for whatever reason. <\/p>\n \tWe concentrate on the things that the shooter can do to reduce that randomness. Looking at what the back wall does to screw with the shot IMO isn’t productive since there are only two things that the shooter can do to affect the shot other than having the proper setup, backswing and release. Those two things are changing the entry angle of the dice hitting the table ( by changing the angle in which the dice are released and distance that they are tossed ) and making the dice land softer so that there is less energy to be dissipated after the dice land. <\/p>\n \tI would advise not spending too much time and energy on looking at this since #1 What can you do after you have done your best to make a good shot? #2 Does your medical insurance have good psychiatric coverage since this will drive you crazy because the pyramids do their job regularly, that’s why the casino puts them there and lets you shoot.<\/p>\n \tAlways remember that you don’t have to and realistically can’t control every shot. There will always be a big random component in this endeavor as there is in all casino games and in all of the advantage plays people use to beat those games, mathematicians refer to it as variance. I don’t remember the exact math or exact numbers but if you throw an controlled shot and avoid the 7 with that controlled shot once every 41-42 shots you will have an edge on the 6\/8 place bets. That’s a simple statement and a simple concept but it"s true.<\/p>\n \tDo what you can to toss correctly, having the dice rotate and land together and go straight to the back wall and be happy when you accomplish it knowing all the while that after you do all of those things that the pyramids are waiting to do their job and screw the whole thing up.<\/p>\n \tBTK<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on September 16, 2013, 8:07 pm<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on September 18, 2013, 5:01 pm<\/p>\n \tIMHO, it is the best tool we have to give the experienced thrower a more advanced look at his shot<\/p>\n \tDominator<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on September 18, 2013, 8:01 pm<\/p>\n \tThanks for your answer. \t7×7<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on September 18, 2013, 9:57 pm<\/p>\n \tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" At some point in the class, are we yet looking into a slo-mo video of the dice landing, hitting the wall and settling down? 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\n\tAnd no, your remind me of answers from politicians.
\n\tWhy? .. the question was not answered. LOL.
\n\tWith due respect, senators, of cource. Oh, well.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\tPerfect or not it is the result that counts . My best looking throws have ended in Bad results at times .O how many times I thought that looks great and it turns into a 7 . \ud83d\ude41 \ud83d\ude41
\n\tI still look back when I took the class and remember the instructors saying that was a good 7 . ( 5-2 or 4-3 ) Thinking 7 is BAD period no matter how you look at it .
\n\tI played golf one time with 2 friends . They told me that my shoot looked good and went straight. It was just that I had to hit the ball twice to reach were their had landed . One time they said to just aim toward their ball that was about 150 yds away to catch up which I did . My ball hit one of theirs and we all had a good laugh. That was the only time I have played golf . I know that is not my sport .
\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00 \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\tdice landing, hitting the wall and settling down?
\n\tIsn’t this the ultimate objective of the throw,
\n\t— not a helter-skelter, energetic, random splash of a show like mine? LOL<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
\n\tvideo class to offer a focused slow motion video view of
\n\tthe student’s dice landing at the end of the throw,
\n\tbouncing to the wall,
\n\tcoming off the wall and
\n\tsettling on the felt.<\/p>\n
\n\tThanks for the very satisfacory answer.
\n\tSo my take from it is that of the four stages,
\n\t (1) the student’s dice landing at the end of the throw,
\n\t (2) bouncing to the wall,
\n\t (3) coming off the wall and
\n\t (4) settling on the felt
\n\twe must control the first two and hope for the best in the last two.
\n\tThe first two are the result of our practiced throw so we can judge
\n\tour throw from this result, a slo-mo video of which would be desirable.
\n\tThanks,
\n\t7×7<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\tI take it to mean we control stage (1) result,
\n\tas the student’s dice is about to hit the table-top’s felt,
\n\ttheir squareness. approach angle and softness,
\n\tand we can watch for this,
\n\twhile we cannot control the last three stages.
\n\tThanks to you all for the answers.
\n\tHope other learners on this board will find this clarification helpful.<\/p>\n