{"id":5883,"date":"2013-08-27T19:58:52","date_gmt":"2013-08-27T19:58:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/08\/27\/free-bet-blackjack\/"},"modified":"2013-08-27T19:58:52","modified_gmt":"2013-08-27T19:58:52","slug":"free-bet-blackjack","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/08\/27\/free-bet-blackjack\/","title":{"rendered":"Free Bet Blackjack"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHeard about a new game floating around Vegas called Free Bet Blackjack.  All double downs are free!  All splits are free!  Same rules as basic blackjack.  If the dealers draws to a 22, its a table push.  Blackjack pays 3-2.  House edge seems reasonably low!  Any thoughts???  SKINNY???<\/p>\n<p>\tMichael<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on August 27, 2013, 9:29 pm<\/p>\n<div>This game typically offers <br \/>\n\t    &quot;Free Doubles&quot; on hard totals of 9, 10, or 11 with any number of cards.<br \/>\n\t    &quot;Free Splits&quot; on all pairs except 10&#8217;s.<br \/>\n\t     If the dealer gets a 22, all bets left standing push.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe house edge for this game using basic strategy is 0.79%.<\/p>\n<p>\tThis is slightly higher than the house edge on a standard game that has favorable rules.<\/p>\n<p>\tFor example, the house edge is 0.43% on an 8 deck game with the following rules:<br \/>\n\tDealer stands on soft 17<br \/>\n\tDouble after split allowed<br \/>\n\tDouble allowed on any first 2 cards<br \/>\n\tResplit to 4 hands<br \/>\n\tNo resplit of aces<br \/>\n\tCan not hit split aces<br \/>\n\tBJ pays 3-2<\/p>\n<p>\tThe significant reduction in the house edge of around 6.55% by the free double and free split is offset by the dealer push on a 22 which adds 6.91% to the house edge.  The net effect is to increase the house edge over that of the standard game.<\/p>\n<p>\tLas Vegas seldom (never is considered seldom) gives anything to the player when they invent a new game.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on August 28, 2013, 11:09 am<\/p>\n<div>As Skinny says, any side bet at any game usually has a higher edge in favor of the house.  Although the payout can be big on these side bets, you will lose in the long run  if you make enough of these side bets.  I know these bonus bets may only be $1, so it seems trivial, but those $1 bets add up over time.  If the bonus bet payoff is $100,000 for this $1 bet, it simply means that over the long haul that 120,000 players (or some such high number) have made this bet and lost.  <\/p>\n<p>\tOver the past couple of years as I play Pow Gai (or however you spell it) poker, not making the envy bonus, I kept count with chips, and would have never come out ahead had I made this side bonus.  The only time I  came out ahead I got a straight flush and over that session would have only won $10. Count the many times I did not win and I would have been way behind. And yes I know it is tough when a you miss a big win but the long run will eat you alive.  That&#8217;s how they pay for these places.<\/p>\n<p>\tJust my $.02 worth.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Heard about a new game floating around Vegas called Free Bet Blackjack. All double downs are free! All splits are free! Same rules as basic blackjack. If the dealers draws to a 22, its a table push. Blackjack pays 3-2&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":100,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5883","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5883","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/100"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5883"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5883\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5883"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5883"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5883"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}