{"id":5419,"date":"2013-07-29T07:13:13","date_gmt":"2013-07-29T07:13:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/07\/29\/pass-line-and-come-bets\/"},"modified":"2013-07-29T07:13:13","modified_gmt":"2013-07-29T07:13:13","slug":"pass-line-and-come-bets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/07\/29\/pass-line-and-come-bets\/","title":{"rendered":"Pass Line and Come bets"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nSkinny Just came back from casino. They now say you only can  bet Max . ONE dollar on both bets . Who would ever think that would happen ?  Hope it does not get to the rest.<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on July 29, 2013, 12:38 pm<\/p>\n<div>I am sorry, I do not know what you are talking about.  Maybe I an stunad(stupid )<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on July 29, 2013, 3:38 pm<\/p>\n<div>Bob,<\/p>\n<p>\tFinisher and I have had ongoing discussions in the past about using the doey-don&#8217;t on video craps to get comps and tier points at Harrah&#8217;s casinos.<\/p>\n<p>\tHe says he knows these players who make large bets on the pass and don&#8217;t pass.  Then he sees them get diamond status with little risk.<\/p>\n<p>\tI pointed out how they are kidding themselves into thinking they have very little at risk.  In the long run they would do better just betting the pass or don&#8217;t pass all by itself.  I ran through the math.  Gave examples using various bets.  In the end I showed him the doey-don&#8217;t was a fools errand costing more over time.  I explained that these guys were getting comps and tier points because they were betting huge sums AND LOSING according to the math.<\/p>\n<p>\tBut I am not sure I was able to convince him differently.  I think he still thought there was some &quot;magic&quot; in their ratings&#8217; formula that somehow gave players more than they deserved when betting the doey-don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>\tLet&#8217;t say I was highly skeptical to say the least.  The math is never wrong and casinos (especially those with the resources of Harrah&#8217;s) rarely get it wrong!<\/p>\n<p>\tI guess they have now limited them to a max of $1 each way on the doey-don&#8217;t.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on July 29, 2013, 3:48 pm<\/p>\n<div>Skinny,<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks, now I know what is going on with this discussion.  You are so right, you can not beat the math of the game.<\/p>\n<p>\tBob<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on July 29, 2013, 8:45 pm<\/p>\n<div>Skinny Highly skeptical  ??? Ask yourself why did the casino change the min. bet on the come and pass line also change the pay per play from 20.00 play for a point to 80.00 play per point.<br \/>\n\tSo now no more 10.00 bet with odds .<br \/>\n\tIt is a good game for a person to learn craps but other then that it is fun .<br \/>\n\tThey got 7 star  not diamond . That could be done in a day . The way they bet .<br \/>\n\tIf you do the math the old way just about every roll you would get a point or more and not loose that much compared to a slot.<br \/>\n\tLike I said in other post they would set for the 12 on come out . I guess the odds of it coming right back are slim. Some times they bet the 12 for one dollar too.<br \/>\n\tSo say on a long roll they may end up down or up a few pennies .They just wanted their money back with the points.<br \/>\n\tThe more box numbers rolled the better I would guess. Since that is were they make their points . Coin in coin out .<br \/>\n\tYou just need to look at it in a different way . More in line with slots then the real game .<br \/>\n\tIn the real game of craps this does not work at all . I know this but thought that it was interesting to watch all this unfold and see that even tho the math is right there are ways to change things .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Skinny Just came back from casino. They now say you only can bet Max . ONE dollar on both bets . Who would ever think that would happen ? Hope it does not get to the rest. 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