{"id":5106,"date":"2013-07-10T23:36:36","date_gmt":"2013-07-10T23:36:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/07\/10\/question-on-a-dont-come-bet-with-oddsl\/"},"modified":"2013-07-10T23:36:36","modified_gmt":"2013-07-10T23:36:36","slug":"question-on-a-dont-come-bet-with-oddsl","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/07\/10\/question-on-a-dont-come-bet-with-oddsl\/","title":{"rendered":"Question on a Don&#039;t Come bet with oddsl"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nOn a come-out roll a Come bet with odds loses the flat bet on a Seven and the odds are returned to the player. But if the number is thrown he wins on the flat bet and the odds are returned to him. Only the flat bet is working on the come-out roll.<\/p>\n<p>\tOn a come-out roll what happens to the Don&#8217;t Come bet with odds? When a Seven is thrown does he win on the flat bet and the odds are returned to him? If the number is thrown does he lose the flat bet and the odds are returned to him?<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on July 11, 2013, 1:13 am<\/p>\n<div>He loses if the number is thrown, wins if the seven is thrown.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo on a come out roll the don&#8217;t come bettor and the pass line bettor both win.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on July 12, 2013, 4:00 pm<\/p>\n<div>Seventimesseven&#8212;Remember the don&#8217;t is the opposite of the do.  On a come out roll after a point is made when the shooter rolls a 7 here is what happens as best I understand.  <\/p>\n<p>\tThe do player wins his pass line bet but losses all the &quot;flat&quot; come bets and his odds are returned&#8211;the base come bets are always working even on a come out bet.  Remember as a courtesy to the players the come line odds are not working on a come out roll and that is why they are returned&#8212;there is no basis come bet left for the odds to be on.  The player can call his come bets working and if the 7 is rolled he loses the entire come bet.  <\/p>\n<p>\tOn the other hand the don&#8217;t player wins all of his don&#8217;t come bets plus the odds layed on each don&#8217;t come bet.  <\/p>\n<p>\tHope that helps.<\/p>\n<p>\tAlligator Rose and Doc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on July 12, 2013, 11:00 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;Dr Crapology&quot; wrote:<\/strong> Seventimesseven&#8212;Remember the don&#8217;t is the opposite of the do.  On a come out roll after a point is made when the shooter rolls a 7 here is what happens as best I understand.  <br \/>\n\t&#8230;&#8230;.<br \/>\n\tOn the other hand the don&#8217;t player wins all of his don&#8217;t come bets plus the odds layed on each don&#8217;t come bet.  <\/p>\n<p>\tHope that helps.<\/p>\n<p>\tAlligator Rose and Doc<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tThanks for the answers. But that was clear as mud for my quaestion on what happens to<br \/>\n\tthe odds portion of the bet for the Don&#8217;t Come player. <br \/>\n\tAre you saying his odds are in play as well as his flat bet, <br \/>\n\twinning on his odds bet as well as on his flat bet if a comeout seven is thrown and <br \/>\n\tlosing his odds bet as well as his flat bet when that number is thrown?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on July 12, 2013, 11:35 pm<\/p>\n<div>Yes, that is what he was saying.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe base bet and odds of a don&#8217;t come are working on the come out roll.  A don&#8217;t come wins when a seven is thrown on the come out roll.  The base bet pays even money and the odds portion pays &quot;true odds&quot; of 1 to 2 for the 4 or 10, 2 to 3 for the 5 or 9 and 5 to 6 for the 6 or 8.  If the number the don&#8217;t come is on is thrown on a come out roll the base bet and odds are both lost.<\/p>\n<p>\tIt is standard procedure for don&#8217;t come bets to be working on the come out roll in all casinos.  The player has the option of calling the bet &quot;off&quot; but he should not do that because he has the advantage over the house since he wins with a seven.<\/p>\n<p>\tLikewise a &quot;lay&quot; bet is working on the come out roll.  Whereas place bets, buy bets and the odds on a come bet, are all off on the come out roll.<\/p>\n<p>\tHardways are typically working in Las Vegas and not working in Atlantic City on the come out roll.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SevenTimesSeven on July 13, 2013, 3:31 pm<\/p>\n<div>Skinny,<\/p>\n<p>\tYou came through with flying colors, as you always do.<br \/>\n\tNot only did you precisely answer the question but you<br \/>\n\telaborated and expanded in your answer, as you tend to do,<br \/>\n\tfor your readers&#8217; learning. You must be a professor at some<br \/>\n\tuniversity. I had the privilege of being a student of one such.<br \/>\n\tHe explained completely, to cover all logical questions that may <br \/>\n\tcome up.<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks again to you and the others for your answers.<\/p>\n<p>\t7&#215;7<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On a come-out roll a Come bet with odds loses the flat bet on a Seven and the odds are returned to the player. But if the number is thrown he wins on the flat bet and the odds are&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":63,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5106","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5106","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/63"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5106"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5106\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5106"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5106"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5106"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}