{"id":4723,"date":"2013-06-18T22:37:46","date_gmt":"2013-06-18T22:37:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/06\/18\/best-way-to-adjust-dice-landing-spot\/"},"modified":"2013-06-18T22:37:46","modified_gmt":"2013-06-18T22:37:46","slug":"best-way-to-adjust-dice-landing-spot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/06\/18\/best-way-to-adjust-dice-landing-spot\/","title":{"rendered":"Best Way to Adjust Dice Landing Spot?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHi!<\/p>\n<p>\tI have been wondering what the best way is to adjust the dice landing spot if it becomes necessary.<\/p>\n<p>\tWhat I am asking is how to PHYSICALLY adjust to accomplish a two or three inch difference in landing to the left or right of where your dice have been landing previously.<\/p>\n<p>\tI know the pat answer will be to leave the table if someone puts chips in your landing zone and I don&#8217;t always disagree with that plan of attack. However, if I am on my 60th roll when someone puts chips in my zone I don&#8217;t believe I will have the discipline to walk away at that point!  \ud83d\ude00 <\/p>\n<p>\tI just like to practice for all possibilities so I am not thinking too much if something happens while I am at the casino table.<\/p>\n<p>\tI would guess there are several ways to skin this cat depending on physical stature. If I was really tall (which I am not) I would probably try to lean out a couple of inches further to toss so I could attack the back wall straight on. The way I have been practicing to make this subtle change is to bring my foot closest to the back wall in an inch or so closer to the table and kind of close my shoulder slightly so my dice will go out toward the center of the table slightly. My dice will not be totally square to the wall when I do it this way so I am not sure if this is the right approach or not. I would guess there are many more possibilities that I have not even considered yet.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo, how do you all approach this dilemma when it happens to you? Also, instructors, what do you teach as far as adjusting to change the landing zone?<\/p>\n<p>\tLooking forward to everyone&#8217;s input and correction to my approach if something else will work better.<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks!<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mailman on June 19, 2013, 2:58 am<\/p>\n<div>Getagrip,<\/p>\n<p>\tI practice target shooting at home by putting chips in my landing zone. I then shoot left of the chips and right of the chips to see what my best results show. I do this on a good roll so that I don&#8217;t get rattled and taken out of my comfort zone. So don&#8217;t break rythym, don&#8217;t break focus, and hit your &quot;new&quot; target. <\/p>\n<p>\ttommy2names<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SectionEight on June 19, 2013, 6:51 am<\/p>\n<div>Getagrip,<\/p>\n<p>\tFirst of, how&#8217;s it going?  Hope all is well with you!<\/p>\n<p>\tI think you answered your own questions.  If you&#8217;re on roll 60 and there&#8217;s so many chips down in your target area, it looks like a small city&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.being your height&#8230;.I&#8217;d color up.    So you had that one right for yourself, in my opinion.<\/p>\n<p>\tMe?  I would adjust my height&#8230;.get up and over the table just a little to get my arm down over the Don&#8217;t Pass or wherever I need to be to avoid the chips&#8230;&#8230;if I was playing by myself.  I&#8217;ve thrown into some nightmares before, successfully&#8230;.but there&#8217;s ample luck involved when knocking around dice and chips&#8230;.you just want to avoid it if possible.<\/p>\n<p>\tIf I&#8217;m with my buddies, one of them would either cover my target area, or I would pass the dice&#8230;.there&#8217;s too many places to play to have to put up with chips all over the place.<\/p>\n<p>\tTommy2names has some great targeting techniques and learning aids, the most common of which, looks like a wooden Tic Tac Toe device.  The object is to make it through the center square, land the dice, and avoid the 7.<\/p>\n<p>\tHope this helps!   \ud83d\ude00 <\/p>\n<p>\tTake care,<br \/>\n\tSection Eight<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on June 19, 2013, 1:04 pm<\/p>\n<div>Great responses!<\/p>\n<p>\tYou do have to become a target shooter and be able to put your dice where ever you want. Get a wooden salad bowl and put a couple of tissues in it. Move it to different positions on your table and try to land both dice in the bowl and not bounce out.<\/p>\n<p>\tRemember that you should not aim for the bowl but actually visualize throwing THROUGH the bowl. If you aim your shot will be a lower arc. A baseball pitcher is taught to throw through the catcher&#8217;s mitt and that is the idea here. With an arc get those dice to land flat in the bowl<\/p>\n<p>\tDominator<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> GameDay on June 19, 2013, 1:38 pm<\/p>\n<div>I use a medium size plastic container that you can get in any deli. I also have used the top of a CD\/DVD pack. Not the very large one but the medium size one. I put tissues in the box but you can also use about an inch of rice, sand or other substance that will take the hit and not give a lot of bounce back. <\/p>\n<p>\t<span style=\"color: #BF0000\">The important point is that you MUST practice this.<\/span> You have to get used to changing your drop zone. And you should be prepared to do it on the fly if it becomes necessary. You can only feel comfortable with this if you do it in practice and it becomes second nature. You also have to practice with chips in the way when you throw. Otherwise, you are not replicating the casino experience. I usually play alone, and do not have the benefit of a blocker. I have adapted and you must too if you want to be successful and replicate your practice sessions so you feel comfortable.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on June 19, 2013, 2:26 pm<\/p>\n<div><strong>I use a tool that I made years ago.  I took two of the old coin buckets that the casino&#8217;s used to have and glued them to a very small piece of wood.  I had the two inside edges touching each other and I would practice dropping one of the cubes in each bucket.  Not easy but it worked for me  in becoming a very accurate target shooter.<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> GameDay on June 19, 2013, 2:31 pm<\/p>\n<div>Finesse, <br \/>\n\tlove the idea. Where the heck can I get one of those buckets today?  Brings back memories!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on June 19, 2013, 5:04 pm<\/p>\n<div>One thing I do is to throw five pair of dice before I retrieve any,  that provides additional obstacles as I am throwing and have to adjust my landing position.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SectionEight on June 23, 2013, 7:44 pm<\/p>\n<div>Mr F. that&#8217;s some nostalgic type shooting!  Wonderful! I wished I had some of those buckets.<\/p>\n<p>\tMy targeting bowl was a simple cover from a bulk CD case.  The kind you you buy in bulk of 25 or so blank CDs.  When finished, I just flipped it over, sat it on the table and started shooting.<\/p>\n<p>\tIn the picture, the added wooden bar (my dice stick) horizontally across the table provides the secondary task of obtaining the correct arc while still trying to hit the bowl.  It does tend to get one very good at making adjustments.<\/p>\n<p>\tSee everyone in less than a week!!   \ud83d\ude00 <\/p>\n<p>\tSectionEight<\/p>\n<fieldset class=\"gc-fieldset\">\n<legend> Attached files <\/legend>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/crapsclub.goldentouchcraps.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/wpforo\/default_attachments\/16961=106-image.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/crapsclub.goldentouchcraps.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/wpforo\/default_attachments\/16961=106-image.jpg\" class=\"gc-images\" title=\"image.jpg\" style=\"max-width:300px\" \/><\/a> <\/fieldset>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> getagrip on June 24, 2013, 6:07 pm<\/p>\n<div>Thanks everyone for the replys and suggestions for target shooting.<\/p>\n<p>\tI was hoping for a few more suggestions about how to make a physical change to accomplish hitting the new target area for us shorties but if leaning out over the table more is the best option then I will practice some yoga, do some stretching exercises or hang over the table by my toes to accomplish it!  \ud83d\ude06<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on June 24, 2013, 7:12 pm<\/p>\n<div>SE I noticed that you for got chips on the pass line with odds . Just a thought . Great pic.<br \/>\n\tI will be going to Russia in Aug. to visit Grd daughter. Never thought WE would do this .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Timmer on June 24, 2013, 7:36 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;Getagrip&quot; wrote:<\/strong> &#8230;I was hoping for a few more suggestions about how to make a physical change to accomplish hitting the new target area&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\tWith our goal being to deliver the dice to the flat part of the back wall as square and as level as possible, the best option to accomplish this is to get up and out over the table.<\/p>\n<p>\tWhen adjusting left or right to avoid chips, sometimes you may need to be out over the table as far as possible.  Sometimes the chip placement may require you to establish a target line closer to the side wall, just outside of the &quot;mixing bowl&quot; corner radius.<\/p>\n<p>\tIn other situations, you may need to adjust the length of your toss to avoid chips.  I accomplish this by increasing (or decreasing) the length of my backswing as needed to adjust, while maintaining a smooth tempo.  I use this same backswing adjustment for different table lengths, changing from S1 to S2, etc., carefully watching for any changes in how my dice are reacting.<\/p>\n<p>\tStacks of chips can not only impact your intended landing spot.  Chips can also randomize if hit after the dice have touched down, after hitting the back wall, or if hit anytime before the dice come completely to rest.  This is why we want to work on developing the skills needed to get the dice to come to rest quickly and quietly with minimal roll-out.  These skills are taught as part of the Refresher class curriculum and are covered in-depth as part of the Advanced class.<\/p>\n<p>\tHowever, if the table is crowded enough that you have to navigate what looks like a mine field of chips, the smart play may just be to color-up and save your bankroll for another session with better conditions.<\/p>\n<p>\t \ud83d\ude0e  \ud83d\ude0e  \ud83d\ude0e<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> SectionEight on June 24, 2013, 10:01 pm<\/p>\n<div>Finisher &#8211;  that works very well for getting &quot;up, over, and away&quot;.  :).  This one works for targeting and trajectory.  Hope all is well with you!   <\/p>\n<p>\tTake care,<br \/>\n\tSE<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> GameDay on June 25, 2013, 3:17 pm<\/p>\n<div>Section Eight, <br \/>\n\tLove the photo. <br \/>\n\tI also use the CD cover. I put a wad of tissues in the cover to soften the landing and try to keep them in the box. <br \/>\n\tAlso, as for the bar: it is a great idea.  <br \/>\n\tI use one of those spring loaded curtain rods in place of the wood. Easy to use, install, and remove.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi! I have been wondering what the best way is to adjust the dice landing spot if it becomes necessary. 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