\nIn the last two or three months I have worked on my grip using the gripper and camera, focusing on the rotation of the dice and the way they react when they hit the wall and land , ass of late I have struggled with the way the come off the wall always have repeating numbers but very rarely having longevity in a roll one dice always going one click to far.<\/p>\n
\tWell in the process of making my grip better I forgot the one basic principle of targeting 2 to 4 inches from the wall my target zone had moved to about 6 to 10 inches from the wall while I was trying to soften the throw even thought the throw was softer the dice seemed to want to roll out a lot more.<\/p>\n
\tSo to night I put a little 2 inch square of paper in front of the wall going through my new pre shot routine but using the paper to remind me to target and throw do not think any more when you get to that point just do, oh my god, I want to run out and play.<\/p>\n
\tNow my question why is it so important to do this little sequence of targeting and just let it go? Also why is it so important to hit that area 2 to 4 inches from the wall, the dice seem harder but they sit right down.<\/p>\n
\tThe best way I can explain it is golfers would rather have a full wedge than half a wedge into the green because of the spin they can generate they actually at times worry about over spinning the ball, so with the dice going just a smidge farther and a little more energy they sit because the generate proper amount of spin and angle into the wall is this correct?<\/p>\n
Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on May 7, 2013, 1:21 pm<\/p>\n \tSo, most people try to throw with a "soft touch" instead of just throwing the dice, trusting the grip, and getting it to the back wall. It is amazing that with a little more energy on the dice and a good target placement the dice will get to the back wall and bounce off and stop dead.<\/p>\n \tSo never try to really soften the throw, this will create more problems. Always practice to become a perfect target shooter and get the dice to the wall with energy<\/p>\n \tDominator<\/p>\n \tPS the 2 -4 inches that you are talking about will change depending on the table<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on May 7, 2013, 7:03 pm<\/p>\n \tWhen you try to throw "soft" you sometime get less rotation on the dice or lower the arc and that can cause them to hit with too much energy off the back wall. So when you trust your throw and follow thru to the target closer to the back wall you are probably getting a better release. The dice may be getting a better reaction off the fingers, perhaps a bit more backspin or a better backspin creating a better braking reaction on impact with the table. You may also have a better arc coming in steeper to get the dice further down the table that causes them to dissipate their energy better upon impact.<\/p>\n \tSo follow Dom’s advice and don’t over think the throw.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Agame on May 7, 2013, 8:15 pm<\/p>\n \tI don’t think I ever saw a description of it, so what kind of practice set-up do you have? Posted by:<\/strong> brothelman on May 7, 2013, 9:29 pm<\/p>\n \tthe base of my table is 3 pieces of mdf lambed together and I have just a sheet on it so if you do not throw the dice right they bounce huge!<\/p>\n \tbut I also have a little 12inch by 12 inch receiving station that I sit on the table to get a more realistic true table bounce when I want to see how I am doing.<\/p>\n \tWhen I sit the 12 by 12 on the table the goal is to keep the dice in it with out them hitting the side walls, or bouncing out of it. yes there are pyramids on the 12 by 12.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Agame on May 8, 2013, 10:13 am<\/p>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on May 8, 2013, 11:51 am<\/p>\n "Agame" wrote:<\/strong> Sounds like a great set-up! \n\tPlease excuse the little selling here, but what Tom has is the same idea of our half table. It is made with the idea for those that want the feel and reaction of the dice of a full table but don’t have the room or the funds to buy one.<\/p>\n \tOur half table has the same felt on it that our full table has. Also where the dice are going to land the thickness is 1.5 inches … just like the thickness of a casino crap table. But the rest of the table is 3\/4 inch to cut down on the wait. <\/p>\n \tLike Tom’s idea, with the use of the throwing station you can set it up for a 12 foot or 14 foot length and for left or right.<\/p>\n \tDominator<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> the gman on May 8, 2013, 2:26 pm<\/p>\n \n\tI have had the same problem, the better my throw looks the shorter my rolls are.<\/p>\n \tFor a couple months now that seems to be the case. I still have some decent rolls, \tIt also seems i am either a 3 or less or good roll. Most of the 7’s are 3\/4 4\/3 , even with \tRemember what the little kid said when he was trying to throw the ball up to hit it, and he kept \tgman<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Mr Finesse on May 8, 2013, 2:44 pm<\/p>\n \tSometimes I say, let the f—— dice fly. You all know what I mean. sorry!!!!!<\/p>\n \tIn my own play I have found that I now prefer throwing from SL1&1\/2 as opposed to SL1 or I am not opposed from throwing from SL2. I can just let the dice go just like I am always saying in class.<\/p>\n \tLast week in Tunica I was playing on a 14 ft table and kind of liked it from SL1, the added distance was not any problem. 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\n\tWhen you talk about the "4 inches away from the back wall", is it on a practice table? A half table with curved back wall? Or GTC receiving station?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\tI feel like my own set-up needs some updating and I would love to take a look at yours, if possible. I’ll be in Vegas in a week and can hardly wait. I also feel that the newly graduated would benefit from seeing pictures<\/strong> of it, especially the 9 foot table. What a great idea for those who lack the space for the whole 12 foot or 14 foot table!! Did you build them yourself?
\n\tMy own set-up is a GTC throwing and receiving rig; there are pictures of it on the site and prices as well.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
\n\tI feel like my own set-up needs some updating and I would love to take a look at yours, if possible. I’ll be in Vegas in a week and can hardly wait. I also feel that the newly graduated would benefit from seeing pictures<\/strong> of it, especially the 9 foot table. What a great idea for those who lack the space for the whole 12 foot or 14 foot table!! Did you build them yourself?
\n\tMy own set-up is a GTC throwing and receiving rig; there are pictures of it on the site and prices as well.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
\n\tthursday i had a 28 and Friday a real nice 32 with 6 pass line winners, but if you take those
\n\tout i guess i have a srr of 3….<\/p>\n
\n\t3-v i will get the 3\/4\/ 4\/3
\n\tI guess it is pretty hard to throw every toss perfectly, you cant have a hardways on every
\n\ttoss, but the 4\/3 3\/4 a tough penalty for being close. sorta like a real good shot in bowling
\n\tand leave a 10 pin, and then miss the pin….very costly.<\/p>\n
\n\tmissing over and over… his friend said your not a very good hitter, but the kid replied
\n\tno, but i am a hell of a pitcher.
\n\tSame here, i am one hell of a 3\/4 4\/3 shooter<\/p>\n