{"id":3409,"date":"2013-04-11T03:38:50","date_gmt":"2013-04-11T03:38:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/04\/11\/pai-gow-no-commission\/"},"modified":"2013-04-11T03:38:50","modified_gmt":"2013-04-11T03:38:50","slug":"pai-gow-no-commission","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/04\/11\/pai-gow-no-commission\/","title":{"rendered":"Pai Gow No Commission"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHas anyone played this version of Pai Gow ?   It is called  EZ PAI GOW<\/p>\n<p>\tIt has just been put in on 2 tables (converted from regular Pai Gow) at 2 of the local casinos in my area. <\/p>\n<p>\tThe rules are the same as regular Pai Gow with the following changes<\/p>\n<p>\t1) No Commission on wins<br \/>\n\t2) If the dealer get a Queen high Pai Gow ,  all regular bets are a push   <br \/>\n\t3) 2 extra side bets<\/p>\n<p>\tSide bets<\/p>\n<p>\t1) Dynasty  Bet   same as Fortune bet on the regular table<br \/>\n\t2) Queen high Pai Gow that the dealer gets  This pays 50 to 1 .  Note the average for Queen high for the dealer is 1 every 57 hands. I have seen the   counter at the table many times over 100 and today at 250.<br \/>\n\t3) Pai gow bets on your hand<\/p>\n<p>\t   The bets on A-5 natural straight flush  120 to 1<br \/>\n\t                      9 high PG                         100 to 1<br \/>\n\t                     10 high PG                          25 to 1<br \/>\n\t                       J high PG                          15 to 1<br \/>\n\t                       Q high PG                          7 to 1<br \/>\n\t                       K  high PG                          5 to 1    <br \/>\n\t                       A  high PG                          3 to 1  <\/p>\n<p>\tHas anyone played this version yet ?   <\/p>\n<p>\tSkinny   how does compare to the regular Pai Gow game.<\/p>\n<p>\tNote: the game seams to be a little bit faster, as the dealers do not have to worry about collecting the 5%  Commission.<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on April 11, 2013, 4:27 am<\/p>\n<div>It has a house advantage of 2.47%.  That is slightly lower than regular Pai Gow Poker at 2.73%, if you do not bank.  But it is worse than regular Pai Gow Poker if you bank at every opportunity.  With banking you are at 1.46% when playing heads up.  It gets lower if there are other players playing against you depending on how many are playing and the amount they are wagering.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe house advantage on the side bets are as follows:<\/p>\n<p>\t1) Dynasty Bet same as Fortune bet on the regular table<br \/>\n\tSince it pays an envy bonus, it depends on the number of players and the amount you wager on the bonus.  It starts at 8.16% with one player and decreases with each additional player down to 3.64% at a full table.<\/p>\n<p>\t2) Queen high Pai Gow that the dealer gets This pays 50 to 1 . Note the average for Queen high for the dealer is 1 every 57 hands. I have seen the counter at the table many times over 100 and today at 250.<br \/>\n\thouse advantage is 10.0%<\/p>\n<p>\t3) Pai gow bets on your hand<br \/>\n\thouse advantage is 7.0%<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on April 11, 2013, 4:11 pm<\/p>\n<div>[quote=&quot;Skinny&quot;]It has a house advantage of 2.47%.  That is slightly lower than regular Pai Gow Poker at 2.73%, if you do not bank.  But it is worse than regular Pai Gow Poker if you bank at every opportunity.  With banking you are at 1.46% when playing heads up.  It gets lower if there are other players playing against you depending on how many are playing and the amount they are wagering.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe house advantage on the side bets are as follows:<\/p>\n<p>\t1) Dynasty Bet same as Fortune bet on the regular table<br \/>\n\tSince it pays an envy bonus, it depends on the number of players and the amount you wager on the bonus.  It starts at 8.16% with one player and decreases with each additional player down to 3.64% at a full table.<\/p>\n<p>\t2) Queen high Pai Gow that the dealer gets This pays 50 to 1 . Note the average for Queen high for the dealer is 1 every 57 hands. I have seen the counter at the table many times over 100 and today at 250.<br \/>\n\thouse advantage is 10.0%<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks Skinny.  Those are the %% I was wondering about. I always bank when I am heads up with the dealer and sometimes with other players depending on their bets.<\/p>\n<p>\tIt seams to me that the EZ game is faster and more hands as the dealers do not have to worry about the commission.<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks again  CC Roller<\/p>\n<p>\tPS: When is Franks book due with your Pai Gow section<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on April 11, 2013, 4:37 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;CC Roller&quot; wrote:<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>\tPS: When is Franks book due with your Pai Gow section<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tFrank tells me his new book, &quot;Everything Casino Poker&quot;, is now in print and should be out shortly.  I think the cover will look like the following:<\/p>\n<p>\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i49.tinypic.com\/i4ogt4.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\t\ufeff\ufeff<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Chevy on May 26, 2013, 10:33 pm<\/p>\n<div>I was in AC this weekend and played some EZ Pai Gow.  I found it as previously described, but they would not let me bank.  Don&#8217;t know if this is just this one house or not but it also helps the HA.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on May 29, 2013, 2:31 am<\/p>\n<div>Chevy<\/p>\n<p>\tYou are correct. You can not bank with EZ Pai Gow.  I have played at 2 local casinos and 1 when I was on holidays, and the answer is the same.. No Banking.<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Has anyone played this version of Pai Gow ? It is called EZ PAI GOW It has just been put in on 2 tables (converted from regular Pai Gow) at 2 of the local casinos in my area. 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