{"id":291,"date":"2012-02-12T22:46:47","date_gmt":"2012-02-12T22:46:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/02\/12\/fire-bet-payoff\/"},"modified":"2012-02-12T22:46:47","modified_gmt":"2012-02-12T22:46:47","slug":"fire-bet-payoff","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/02\/12\/fire-bet-payoff\/","title":{"rendered":"fire bet payoff"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nCan anyone explain the payoff for a six point fire bet win for Canadians playing in Canada?  I am wondering about the 1000 to 1 payoff.<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks<br \/>\n\tCmcierra<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on February 13, 2012, 2:20 am<\/p>\n<div>Saw a fire bet (that I did not bet) that paid a little different.  I did not write them down but it was something like this<\/p>\n<p>\tSet and make 3 (yes 3) points and you get paid 5 to 1<br \/>\n\tSet and Make 4  points you get paid 10 to 1<br \/>\n\tSet and make 5 points you get paid 100 to 1<br \/>\n\tSet and make all 6 points you get paid 500 to 1<\/p>\n<p>\tAs I said don&#8217;t hold me to these numbers but they added the 3 for a win and reduced payoff on the 4 to 6 wins.<\/p>\n<p>\tLooks like another bad bet to me.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on February 13, 2012, 3:55 am<\/p>\n<div>CIII is correct in his calculations on the firebet.<\/p>\n<p>\tAlso for those that do not know the firebet.  You do not have to toss the numbers in any particular order.<\/p>\n<p>\tAnd ALL wininnings in any Casino in CANADA are NOT taxed.<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller  EH<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Cmcierra on February 14, 2012, 1:36 pm<\/p>\n<div>Thanks for the heads up. \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on February 14, 2012, 5:45 pm<\/p>\n<div>CCRoller,<\/p>\n<p>\tCanadian winnings are tax for US residents, just not for you.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on February 19, 2012, 4:12 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;ACPA&quot; wrote:<\/strong> CCRoller,<\/p>\n<p>\tCanadian winnings are tax for US residents, just not for you.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tNoah<\/p>\n<p>\tI like those words  &quot;Just not for you&quot;<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on February 19, 2012, 5:45 am<\/p>\n<div>CC Roller, am I right that gambling wins that you might  win south of the border are still not taxable for you in Canada?<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on February 19, 2012, 2:24 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;ACPA&quot; wrote:<\/strong> CC Roller, am I right that gambling wins that you might  win south of the border are still not taxable for you in Canada?<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p>\n<p>\tYou are correct.  But if I (Or any other non American) wins over $1200 on shots, we receive an IRA  slip after deductions for Fed (30 percent) and State Taxes.  Now you can get part of that back due to a Canadian\/USA tax treaty  see casinotaxrebate.com .<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on February 28, 2012, 1:45 am<\/p>\n<div>Q Has any one out there really bet the FIRE BET. By this I mean just a pass line bet with no odds and 10 on the fire with no other bets till you win .Your risk is only 15 till you hit one point then goes down from there.The worries should subside after the 3rd point hopefully. Now who is willing to try this on for size ?<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on February 28, 2012, 5:43 am<\/p>\n<div>Finisher,<\/p>\n<p>\tI like the other approach better, bet minimum table limits, max odds and you&#8217;ll make good money every time you make six different points.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Cmcierra on May 14, 2012, 7:31 pm<\/p>\n<div>I think the max in Canadian casinos is $5 on the fire bet.<\/p>\n<p>\tCmcierra<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CC Roller on May 15, 2012, 2:34 am<\/p>\n<div>CM<br \/>\n\tYes the most I have seen in Canada (and you know where) is $5,  But I saw a $10 Max last Jan in Vegas on the strip.  E-mail offsite and I will give you the names if you need.<\/p>\n<p>\tCC Roller<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Rubin74 on May 15, 2012, 2:16 pm<\/p>\n<div>Most casinos in Vegas have a max of 10 if they offer the fire.  Most of them are the 4,5,6 payouts but there are a couple that pay for three numbers<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> OneMoonCircles on May 16, 2012, 5:42 am<\/p>\n<div>I know I have seen it before but can&#8217;t remember true odds against making the fire bet. 3,4,5 and 6 numbers please.<\/p>\n<p>\tOMC<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on May 16, 2012, 6:02 am<\/p>\n<div>[pre].<\/p>\n<p>\t              Fire Bet Probabilities<\/p>\n<p>\t  Points Made\t          Probability                      Odds  Against Rounded<br \/>\n\t       0 \t       0.593939393939394                          2 to 3<br \/>\n\t       1 \t       0.260750492003903                          3 to 1<br \/>\n\t       2 \t       0.101275355549231                          9 to 1<br \/>\n\t       3 \t       0.0334342121788456                        29 to 1<br \/>\n\t       4 \t       0.00879817844040312                      113 to 1<br \/>\n\t       5 \t       0.00163993313895325                      624 to 1<br \/>\n\t       6 \t       0.000162434749269826                    6172 to 1[\/pre]<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can anyone explain the payoff for a six point fire bet win for Canadians playing in Canada? I am wondering about the 1000 to 1 payoff. 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