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Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on January 23, 2013, 2:46 am<\/p>\nSkinny,<\/p>\n
\tif you could set for and through say 7 sevens rather than 36, what are your thoughts about laying a large amount after and\/or during the come out.<\/p>\n
\tI meant to say without the don’t come bet rather than without the lay bet.<\/p>\n
\tIf you can make the seven appear and can play at an empty or one other shooter table, is laying with the vig paid only on wins a good way to play?<\/p>\n
\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on January 23, 2013, 3:03 am<\/p>\nI guess I would say what Dom always says, "Demonstrate that you have a statistical advantage and bet into that advantage".<\/p>\n
\tI do not see a difference between making lay bets when you have a statistical advantage producing sevens vs. making place bets when you have a statistical advantage reducing the appearance of the seven. As long as you do not have to wait long to get the dice back, I suppose lay bets and shooting for sevens is one way to go.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> getagrip on January 23, 2013, 7:01 pm<\/p>\nHi!<\/p>\n
\tI think I remember the Lay bet on the 4 or 10 on the Come Out play from Sam Grafstein’s Dice Doctor book. I am not necessarily supporting it. Only saying that I have read about it in the past. He was suggesting this for a random roller play but it seems like too much exposure for little gain to me on random rollers since you have to Lay $51 to make $25 and of course you can user larger amounts and win more or lose more.<\/p>\n
\tI might be tempted to try this one on myself sometime but I would have to put a lot of numbers into Smart Craps to see which number I rolled least—4 or 10 and keep good stats on what my 7 percentage was on an all 7 set. In the end I still think it would be too much exposure for too little gain unless you are an excellent controlled roller. Unfortunately, I am not in that category yet but you may very well be.<\/p>\n
\tJust my thoughts! \ud83d\ude42<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Guest on January 25, 2013, 12:49 pm<\/p>\nHey ACPA was that don’t player the guy with the telephone around his neck. If so I am pretty sure he was probably right. I have rolled with him many times. He usually will go against me the first time and maybe the second, but if I knock him off three numbers in a roll he will just quit betting on me. <\/p>\n
\tAs far as the doey\/don’t goes I play that often if I can only get on a table with minimum higher than I want to play on the pass line. With a 12 as protection on the come out you can reduce the pass line to a $5 bet by betting $15 pass and $10 don’t.
\n\tClark<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on January 25, 2013, 4:43 pm<\/p>\nDon’t remember much about him. He was to my left and I was usually looking the other way.<\/p>\n
\tHope the chemo is helping.<\/p>\n
\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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