{"id":2011,"date":"2013-01-21T22:25:25","date_gmt":"2013-01-21T22:25:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/01\/21\/guns\/"},"modified":"2013-01-21T22:25:25","modified_gmt":"2013-01-21T22:25:25","slug":"guns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2013\/01\/21\/guns\/","title":{"rendered":"Guns"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nWas talking with some people about gun control and they suggested something I&#8217;ve never heard discussesd.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoes the following make any sense to you.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo the second amendment authorizes you to own a gun.  Fine, lets agree about that.<\/p>\n<p>\tHowever, if you own a gun, you must be able to prove that people who are injured by that gun will be compensated for that injury.  Sorta like having to have liability car insurance.<\/p>\n<p>\tNow I know that auto insurance is a state by state thing, and I admit I though a federal law to require me to buy insurance would be unconstitual.<\/p>\n<p>\tHowever with the new federal health care, looks like I as wrong.<\/p>\n<p>\tYou have the right to own your gun.  However, maybe you will try more to preventsomeoneelse frm using it.<\/p>\n<p>\tDon&#8217;t know if it would help but wouldn&#8217;t interested in your thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Stephen C on January 22, 2013, 1:43 am<\/p>\n<div>So what your suggesting, if I understand, is that I carry Liability Insurance on all my Firearms. Then should your neighbor break into my home and steal one, use it to do you harm, &quot;I&quot; would be liable to you for the injuries? Ridiculous, go after the SOB that shot you, no that won&#8217;t work the bastard hasn&#8217;t got any money, that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s out taking my shit.<\/p>\n<p>\tAdditionally, some asshole comes into my house while I&#8217;m here, if he gets by the six English Mastiffs, get shot by me and your going to make it easier for him to sue me for the misfortune of being a burglar &#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>\tPlease how about something more attuned to those of us who live in Realsville.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on January 22, 2013, 3:00 am<\/p>\n<div>Stephen C,<\/p>\n<p>\tDon&#8217;t put words in my mouth, look at my example about your car insurance insurance.  Using your example, but substitute car for gun.  Would you car insurance pay anything.  I doubt it, for ilivedthrough a example where the owner of the car that hit me claimed he had not given the person who was never found permission to use his car.<\/p>\n<p>\tWhether the son who used his mother&#8217;s gun at New Town would fit in this I&#8217;m not sure,but believe if a crazy bought a gun and insurance, say the Aurora guy the insurance would pay.<\/p>\n<p>\tMy idea may be off the wall, but I&#8217;m not sure how to reduce the odds of future incidents.  <\/p>\n<p>\tI&#8217;m not sure the NRA&#8217;s idea is the way to go or not.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tDo you have any suggestions for consideration?<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> sevenout on January 22, 2013, 3:38 pm<\/p>\n<div>Sometimes bad things happen. No amount of laws, regulation, restrictions, or insurance will prevent that.<\/p>\n<p>\tI think the idea creates a whole new industry that would be designed to seperate me from my money. It would just create another possible victim for the lawyers to fleece. The guy who steal my gun an does harm to someone is liable, but he ain&#8217;t gots no money, so they come after me? No different than with the car example. Can&#8217;t get the driver, get the owner. If that doesn&#8217;t work sue the car manufacturer or the mechanic that maintained the vehicle.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe soultion? More armed citizens. Make it a game of Russian Roulette for those that wish to do harm. What are the odds this person is packing? Darn, Snake Eyes, you lose, thanks for playing.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> the gman on February 1, 2013, 3:14 pm<\/p>\n<div>The first thing you need to understand is the gun control has nothing to do with<br \/>\n\tless people being hurt. It has to do with the next election and politics&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\tPoliticians use the really bad things that happen to get government control<br \/>\n\tover the things they could not get otherwise&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>\tFor instance the NRA has done more to provide for safe use of fire arms than<br \/>\n\tany government agency&#8230;..do you think gun haters care&#8230;. ofcourse not.<\/p>\n<p>\tLets actually take a look a people being killed&#8230;.. This president stands up<br \/>\n\tand says we need to make sure that anyone that buys and sells guns to be used<br \/>\n\tin crime is severely punished&#8230;.. really?????    this administration bought over<br \/>\n\t2000 asssault weapons with the intention to sell them to criminals and they<br \/>\n\tdid and over 200 people were killed&#8230;. was anyone punished&#8230;.???? no<\/p>\n<p>\tThis administration is now providing air craft and 200 tanks to muslims that<br \/>\n\thave pledged to destroy isreal&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; will any government official pay<br \/>\n\twhen these weapons are used to kill american service men and women&#8230;. or our<br \/>\n\tfriends&#8230;.. ofcourse not.<\/p>\n<p>\tObama understands when he preaches gun control, more guns are bought in<br \/>\n\tanticipation to that, than any number to be decreased because of it. There are <br \/>\n\tmillions more guns in American because of Obama, than if he had never been<br \/>\n\telected&#8230;. that is a fact&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\tNow the question is the 2nd amendment&#8230;.. does any one need an assult<br \/>\n\tweapon&#8230;.. i dont &#8230;&#8230; you  may not&#8230; but i hunt with what i have, the<br \/>\n\tnext guy may not hunt but may want to target shoot with these. Just because<br \/>\n\twe dont do what some others do with guns does not mean they have any<br \/>\n\tless rights to have them.<\/p>\n<p>\tThousands of americans are killed on the highways each year&#8230;<br \/>\n\tNow if people never drove on vacation, or to the movie, or to a<br \/>\n\trecreational outlet, thousands would be saved, but we dont ask that,<br \/>\n\talmost 200000 are killed by medical mistakes, do we say now is we<br \/>\n\tjust cut back on the number of doctors we would have fewer deaths&#8230;no<br \/>\n\tWe have had over 51 million dead kids since 1974 because some people think<br \/>\n\tabortion should be the national pass time&#8230;. 51 million&#8230; imagine that<\/p>\n<p>\tHere is the thing, we have over 300 million guns in America&#8230;. taking a few<br \/>\n\taway makes no difference to those that really want to do terrible things.<br \/>\n\tIt only serves to build a resume for some politician for the next election.<\/p>\n<p>\tgman<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Set44 on February 3, 2013, 2:56 am<\/p>\n<div>The Gun issue is a cover-up for the White House  \ud83d\udc7f  \ud83d\udc7f  \ud83d\udc7f because they would rather talk about guns than SPENDING 4 Billion Dollars a DAY, more than they bring in.  Set44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Was talking with some people about gun control and they suggested something I&#8217;ve never heard discussesd. Does the following make any sense to you. So the second amendment authorizes you to own a gun. Fine, lets agree about that. 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