{"id":1824,"date":"2012-11-29T00:50:39","date_gmt":"2012-11-29T00:50:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/11\/29\/fiscal-cliff-or-meaningless-compromise-by-the-dems\/"},"modified":"2012-11-29T00:50:39","modified_gmt":"2012-11-29T00:50:39","slug":"fiscal-cliff-or-meaningless-compromise-by-the-dems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/11\/29\/fiscal-cliff-or-meaningless-compromise-by-the-dems\/","title":{"rendered":"Fiscal Cliff or Meaningless Compromise by the Dem&#039;s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nSince conventional economic wisdom would lead one to believe the meltdown is inevitable regardless of these negotiations, why forestall the calamity. Clearly any thinking individual can predict that a compromise with the Dem&#8217;s will be nothing more than revenue generating measures coupled to spending reductions set to take place sometime in the future. And like every other time there have been compromises of this nature the Dem&#8217;s have after the fact come forth with legislation that negated any benefit the cuts would have derived.<\/p>\n<p>\tI think the melt down would better be fielded now than in the future when it will be even bigger. Bring on the civil unrest we are going to see now, let the Ghetto gators rampage now because there isn&#8217;t the money to pay for their Free Obama phones, Free food stamps, Free housing\/rent or Free anything else. Then they can get off their lazy asses and fend for themselves like the rest of us have to do 24\/7.<\/p>\n<p>\tJust my thought for the day &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> the gman on November 30, 2012, 2:08 am<\/p>\n<div># 1 if you are going to look at this subject you have to understand Obama,<br \/>\n\tand most people dont have a clue&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\tObama wants to avoid an agreement&#8230;. end of story&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\twhy you ask&#8230; that is simple&#8230;. a number of serious financial advisors indicate<br \/>\n\tthere is a good chance of slipping back into a recession next year&#8230;. imagine that,<br \/>\n\tand it would be blamed on Obama policy,,, as it should be.<\/p>\n<p>\tbut god forbid a dem ever get blamed for the damage they do&#8230;. well not his time<br \/>\n\teither&#8230; by avoiding a settlement, he can claim that if there is a recession next<br \/>\n\tit year it was not his fault, but republicans for not compromising&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\tif you go over the cliff and there is no recession, he can blame republicans for raising taxes<br \/>\n\ton all americans&#8230; and he will fight like a &quot;true american hero &quot; to return the<br \/>\n\tcuts to the hard working middle class.<\/p>\n<p>\tRepublicans are no match for Obama.. he may as well be playing with a group<br \/>\n\tof kindergarden kids&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\t republican congressman and senators have lost the ability to communicate with<br \/>\n\tanyone about anything in a manner that can be understood by the average person on<br \/>\n\tmain street. <\/p>\n<p>\tI am embarassed to have some of these people represent me, and even more embarassed<br \/>\n\tthat i have no idea what to do about it.<\/p>\n<p>\tgman<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Set44 on November 30, 2012, 5:47 am<\/p>\n<div>gman,<br \/>\n\t  I wish I could express myself as well as you have, because I agree totally with your analysis.  Set44<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Guest on November 30, 2012, 2:48 pm<\/p>\n<div>The 47 percent have spoken! If we have to borrow money then we borrow it to take care of those in need. Why is that so hard to handle? Everybody has debt. You pay mortgages, car loans, school loans and other loans. America has a little debt. Why can&#8217;t you see that the debt is good for the country and keeps those 47 percent happy and many times healthy?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Stephen C on November 30, 2012, 3:41 pm<\/p>\n<div>Your correct, almost everybody has debt to some extent. Almost everyone borrows at one time or another. But they also pay it back. We, the people, are borrowing .40 cents of every dollar spent. There is no paying back. Just more debt. You and I would be homeless if that we&#8217;re our checkbook, bankrupt.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe Federal Government spent almost ONE TRILLION Dollars on entitlement programs not including Social Security in the latest fiscal year. Almost half of the National budget is &quot;Given&quot; away to your poor. That&#8217;s enough to give every &quot;Legal American&quot; over 18 several hundred thousand dollars a year. <\/p>\n<p>\tNobody here is against helping the true needy, but not the lazy who refuse to work. There are about 2 percent you could say are unable to work that means. So 45 percent of your 47 are lazy, useless and unmotivated. Your probable sitting there in the 45. And I for one no longer want to work so you can eat. Get off your lazy ass and get a job freeloader.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Guest on November 30, 2012, 6:26 pm<\/p>\n<div>Stephen C you da man! \ud83d\ude0e  \ud83d\ude0e  \ud83d\ude0e<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since conventional economic wisdom would lead one to believe the meltdown is inevitable regardless of these negotiations, why forestall the calamity. 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