{"id":1804,"date":"2012-11-26T02:13:40","date_gmt":"2012-11-26T02:13:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/11\/26\/a-casino-adventure\/"},"modified":"2012-11-26T02:13:40","modified_gmt":"2012-11-26T02:13:40","slug":"a-casino-adventure","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/11\/26\/a-casino-adventure\/","title":{"rendered":"A CASINO ADVENTURE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI went to the casino this morning had to get their when they open or I wont get my spot at the $5.00 dollar table. I played 4 hours and managed to make $60.00 dollars which  was a lot of hard work. Most of the players are random shooters, and they would 7 out 2 or 3 rolls later. I wish i could just walk up and get on a hot roll but it never seems to happen. You got to work your but off just to stay afloat and hope they make it past the 5 count. Please let me know how you guys handle it. This happens every time i go. Let me know some of your guys stories. Thanks.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Timmer on November 26, 2012, 4:08 am<\/p>\n<div>Hello StephenP,<\/p>\n<p>\tFirst, congratulations on your winning session. <\/p>\n<p>\tSecond, you&#8217;re right &#8211; There&#8217;s nothing easy about winning at craps.  But hopefully you&#8217;re passionate about the game and had fun winning!<\/p>\n<p>\tBeecause winning is the most fun, after all&#8230;  \ud83d\ude42 <\/p>\n<p>\tLastly, StephenP, as your skills improve and you begin to play with an edge, your thinking on random shooters rolls will change.<\/p>\n<p>\tEventually you&#8217;ll find yourself hoping their rolls will end quickly, as that will mean you&#8217;ll get the dice back in your skilled hands faster.<\/p>\n<p>\tBetting on random shooters is a long-term losing proposition in this negative expectation game we all love.<\/p>\n<p>\tHowever, you&#8217;re wise to be utilizing the 5-count as it will keep your &quot;random shooter&quot; losses to a minimum.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoes this make sense?<\/p>\n<p>\t \ud83d\ude0e  \ud83d\ude0e  \ud83d\ude0e<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Goddess on November 26, 2012, 10:57 am<\/p>\n<div>Hello StephenP,<\/p>\n<p>\tI&#8217;m assuming you haven&#8217;t taken a class, seen I don&#8217;t see it in your profile. After you take one or two classes, and practice for 6-12 months, you will find that you can make money on yourself even with short rolls. Although Sandtrap and I average rolls in the teens (the long rolls are fewer and hard to come by), we almost always make money on rolls that are 10 and under. <\/p>\n<p>\tWhen betting on random shooters, your best bet is one come bet (the lowest house edge), or second choice would be one place bet, after the 5 count. This places a minimum amount of money at risk. We only make that bet so as not to be at the table without betting and drawing attention to ourselves. <\/p>\n<p>\tBy betting a minimum on random shooters, you have more bankroll for your own rolls.<\/p>\n<p>\tGoddess<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Guest on November 26, 2012, 11:33 am<\/p>\n<div>Goddess has it just right. Don&#8217;t waste your money on random rollers. Don&#8217;t get caught up the way other players get caught up in the game and eventually lose their money.<\/p>\n<p>\tControlled shooters bet on themselves.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> JRC on November 26, 2012, 7:54 pm<\/p>\n<div>Where I play they have a new policy that requires me to be active and playing in the game<br \/>\n\tor they will pass me over when it is my time to shoot.<br \/>\n\tBecause of this policy change the five count had to be changed a little.<\/p>\n<p>\tI now have a min pass line bet up on every shooter.<br \/>\n\tIf and when the five count is passed add odds.<br \/>\n\tNo other bet unless that point is made.<br \/>\n\tNext point the process starts over with no odds till a new five count is passed.<br \/>\n\tI don&#8217;t think the casino like it much but it meets their requirement to shoot.<br \/>\n\tThat is all I care about so for now it is working fine.<\/p>\n<p>\tJRC<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Goddess on November 26, 2012, 8:42 pm<\/p>\n<div>There also are casinos that require we place a bet on the person shooting immediately before us. In that case, one come bet is still the best answer, even if you must make it before the 5 count.<\/p>\n<p>\tGoddess<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> JRC on November 27, 2012, 1:45 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;Goddess&quot; wrote:<\/strong> There also are casinos that require we place a bet on the person shooting immediately before us. In that case, one come bet is still the best answer, even if you must make it before the 5 count.<\/p>\n<p>\tGoddess<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tYou are so right. My discription is for a casino that will not let me shoot unless I am activly playing.<br \/>\n\tIn their words that means a bet working at all times. Unfair, unreasonable&#8230; Yes. Their rule none the less <br \/>\n\tso some way to meet the rule and risk very little is the best I can do. The other local casinos that offer better rules are not playable tables for one reason or another.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on November 27, 2012, 3:46 am<\/p>\n<div>Use the rest room more often I GUESS every body has to go sooner or later.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I went to the casino this morning had to get their when they open or I wont get my spot at the $5.00 dollar table. 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