{"id":1594,"date":"2012-10-13T18:31:19","date_gmt":"2012-10-13T18:31:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/10\/13\/one-dealer-was-a-jerk\/"},"modified":"2012-10-13T18:31:19","modified_gmt":"2012-10-13T18:31:19","slug":"one-dealer-was-a-jerk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/10\/13\/one-dealer-was-a-jerk\/","title":{"rendered":"One Dealer Was a Jerk"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI am now using come betting almost exclusively and it really has made a difference in how much I win at the tables. But the other night I had a dealer who kept telling me that the place bets were better bets. She had no idea of the math of the game. She thought placing the 4 or 10 made sense because of the big payout. When I told her the bet had a 6.67 percent house edge she said that meant nothing.<\/p>\n<p>\tHow can a dealer be so stupid? Isn&#8217;t she supposed to understand the game? I was somewhat surprised and after talking to her about it I just gave up. She said she was right because she has dealt the game for a long time. <\/p>\n<p>\tShe reminds me of the old saying, something about a dentist with no teeth!<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Guest on October 13, 2012, 9:24 pm<\/p>\n<div>I think dealers know how to pay off the bets but whether they really understand the percentages of the game is up to questioning.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> OneMoonCircles on October 14, 2012, 6:00 am<\/p>\n<div>It&#8217;s not up to questioning. They don&#8217;t really know the math. I tried to talk to one about up a unit and he got mad and said I was dead wrong. Most have no idea about the percentages of the game and trying to enlighten them is a waste of your, mine and everyone else&#8217;s time.<\/p>\n<p>\tI will bet that 1 in 100 may know some of the math and maybe 1 in 10,000 knows it. Some here are players too and they still don&#8217;t know the math. It is sorta sad though.<\/p>\n<p>\tOMC<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on October 14, 2012, 6:17 am<\/p>\n<div>I remember four dealer at Fitz in Tunica when casinos first opened decided they knew how to win at craps and formed a team to make there fortune at the other Tunica casinos.<\/p>\n<p>\tThey put there money together and came up with a &quot;sure fire&quot; betting method using hardest bets to make there fortune.  As I remember they started out well with the Martingale betting but eventually the high house odds broke them.<\/p>\n<p>\tThey were all good as dealers, but not as players.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> fscobe on October 14, 2012, 9:47 am<\/p>\n<div>I had almost the exact same thing happen to me. One dealer kept saying that the come bet was not good. I didn&#8217;t argue. I just said I read about it in a great book and I would use this method. She ignored me the rest of the evening. As long as they pay off the bets correctly that is all they have to do. <\/p>\n<p>\tSadder than a dealer not knowing the game are players who bet their hard-earned money without knowing the math of the game. That is tragic.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on October 14, 2012, 10:51 am<\/p>\n<div>Frank, I must agree it is tragic to see people throw away their money&#8212;but without them we night not have a good game.  If every player did the GTC betting and our throwing technique the casinos would have to &quot;tighten&quot; up the game.<\/p>\n<p>\tJust a thought.<\/p>\n<p>\tDoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> sevenout on October 16, 2012, 5:33 am<\/p>\n<div>In defense of the &#8216;ploppies&#8217; I will offer this.<\/p>\n<p>\tA coworker likes to play slots. I explained that if he wanted his money to last longer, he might want to put forth a little effort and play some table games (BJ, craps, SP21). He said when he goes to the casino, he goes to have fun. He didn&#8217;t want to have to THINK while he was playing. That was his form of escape. <\/p>\n<p>\tTo each his own, I guess.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> brothelman on October 16, 2012, 6:13 am<\/p>\n<div>I have had boxman tell that i got taken by gtc how does it feel to be scamed.<\/p>\n<p>\tI say i did not get scamed i learned the golden rules hit the wall and tip the crew.<\/p>\n<p>\tThen i say how did i do, that normally ends with a you learned all you need to know.<\/p>\n<p>\t what i want to say is why would you want to make me feel bad i am tipping your crew is that not the players  you want in here.  <br \/>\n\tI mean i am paying your salary by playing here y bust my balls i want to have fun.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> fscobe on October 16, 2012, 10:25 am<\/p>\n<div>Remember thuis truism: The crew, the boxman, the floorperson, the pit boss will never tell someone who really doesn&#8217;t have an edge that he doesn&#8217;t have an edge. They only tell those they believe have an edge that they don&#8217;t have an edge.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on October 16, 2012, 7:20 pm<\/p>\n<div>Mnnn Have you taken a class? I took the 10:30 class that the casino offered 3 yrs. ago is this casino offering one now ?<br \/>\n\tDid I read books ? Not vary much into reading since high school but have you heard of a good one ?<br \/>\n\tBy this time they have stopped asking or the table is to full for them to keep asking questions.<br \/>\n\tI prefer to  let Bman do the talking.<br \/>\n\tI prefer is say as little as possible.I had one dealer tell me that he thought that I was new to the game. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00  I said nothing and just rolled. He went away and I never saw him again.<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> JohnB on October 16, 2012, 9:56 pm<\/p>\n<div>If someone is a jerk or does not give you the proper respect report them to the pit boss.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am now using come betting almost exclusively and it really has made a difference in how much I win at the tables. 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