{"id":1269,"date":"2012-08-25T21:22:52","date_gmt":"2012-08-25T21:22:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/08\/25\/ive-been-around-the-block\/"},"modified":"2012-08-25T21:22:52","modified_gmt":"2012-08-25T21:22:52","slug":"ive-been-around-the-block","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/08\/25\/ive-been-around-the-block\/","title":{"rendered":"I&#039;ve been around the block"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nI have been to all, at least I think all, the craps web sites. What do I find? Basically bullshit and a totally nutty ways of explaining why GTC is the best dice control group. There is such hatred for Frank that I find it almost insane. <\/p>\n<p>\tThere is no way that other groups have the personnel that GTC has. Take a look at the teachers. There isn&#8217;t one of them that isn&#8217;t an expert in his or her field and can&#8217;t teach up a storm!<\/p>\n<p>\tIf you have taken the primer class or refresher you know what I am talking about aren&#8217;t you? The elite video analysis is the best thing GTC has done for players who are really looking to tweak decent throws.<\/p>\n<p>\tSo why can&#8217;t others see the truth? I have. It wasn&#8217;t hard. I took a class from two of the &quot;other gurus&quot; and I have to say they attempted to be good but they just didn&#8217;t have it. Cheap doesn&#8217;t mean it is worth wasting your money on.<\/p>\n<p>\tThat is my opinion.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Jumbotron Ron on August 26, 2012, 12:35 am<\/p>\n<div>Which 2?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Scan on August 26, 2012, 1:49 pm<\/p>\n<div>I can think of about 4 or 5 other groups. Some were offshoots of the other.<\/p>\n<p>\tHe may be referring to Jarry Patterson. Patterson and his PARR guys were around a long time.   A few here have their roots in PARR. I do not  think they are a strong presence anymore, I am not sure they kept up with the times.<\/p>\n<p>\tPatterson is no kid, he was around with a blackjack class in the early days of AC, many of his early students did a number on AC,  The casinos then changed rules to make it more difficult for card counters.<br \/>\n\tHe then came out with his &quot;Target&quot; system which was panned as snakeoil by many critics.<\/p>\n<p>\tI have some audio tapes in which Patterson, Frank and some of the other Dice group heads, of the day, addressed a gathering of likeminded peope  in las Vegas in the early 2000&#8217;s, They are great.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been to all, at least I think all, the craps web sites. What do I find? Basically bullshit and a totally nutty ways of explaining why GTC is the best dice control group. There is such hatred for&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":68,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1269","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1269","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/68"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1269"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1269\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1269"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1269"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1269"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}