{"id":1047,"date":"2012-07-22T19:41:45","date_gmt":"2012-07-22T19:41:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/07\/22\/trip-report-and-discipline\/"},"modified":"2012-07-22T19:41:45","modified_gmt":"2012-07-22T19:41:45","slug":"trip-report-and-discipline","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2012\/07\/22\/trip-report-and-discipline\/","title":{"rendered":"Trip Report and Discipline"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nHi!<\/p>\n<p>\tI recently returned home from a casino trip.  I took copious session notes this trip which I have not really done before. This is a kind of trip report but will probably not be as enjoyable to read as many trip reports are on this web site. I am hoping this will be helpful to some so they do not have to struggle with the same discipline problems that I have had.<\/p>\n<p>\tFirst, let me say that this trip was a success financially and I am happier with the physical aspects of my toss than I have ever been. I tossed several sessions each day averaging tossing the dice about 9 to 12 times per day. My shortest roll was 3 (Yikes!) and my longest was 30. I had many in the 16 to 23 range so I was pleased with that. I had a lot of quality shots as well as some terrible shots and some just plain lucky shots as well as some plain unlucky shots. I still have a lot to learn but GTC teaching so far has always proved to be correct.<\/p>\n<p>\tI was most unhappy with some of my mental discipline and my propensity to still be a bit of a gambler.  \ud83d\ude41 I won\u2019t look at myself as an Advantage player until I have mental discipline of steel! <\/p>\n<p>\tI am normally most comfortable and have the 401G for a $10 table. I found my discipline on a $10 table was pretty good generally&#8212;-I think because it has to be. My discipline troubles start when I play a $5 table.  \ud83d\ude2e Here are my problems as I saw them in my session notes:<\/p>\n<p>\tA.\t I look at the $5 table as a \u201cwarm up\u201d. Now I have already practiced in my room prior to going to the tables so this is NOT a warm up. I find myself less intense when I go to the lower denomination table. I think I am just going to ease into it.  \ud83d\ude33 Wrong, no matter which table I go to, even the practice rig; my intensity both physical and mental needs to be there from the first toss each and every time.<\/p>\n<p>\tB.\tI am not as careful or disciplined with my betting on the $5 table. My rationale is that I can place more bets or spread out quicker because I am only spending half of the money I normally bet on the $10 table.  \ud83d\ude33 Well, yes that would get me in the action on more rolls but that my friend is just adrenalin fueled gambling pure and simple. The 7 comes out just as quick on the $5 table as it does on the $10 table. The problem with this rational is that now instead of needing to win just 3 bets to get my money back, I need to win 4, 5, or 6 just to recoup my initial layout of money.  Do I lose less on a $5 table?  Sometimes I do but the real point is I tend to LOSE money on the $5 table and I tend to win money on the $10 table where I am more disciplined.  Now, if I am betting correctly, maybe I only win $20-$30 at the lower table but at least I am not losing $20-$30. Sounds like a small win but at least it is a win and psychologically better also which is a big thing in what we do.<\/p>\n<p>\tBy taking a lot of session notes I have finally noticed some of my errors and I don\u2019t intend to make these same errors again. One of the things I have in the back of my mind is to try to move up to playing a $25 table soon but I won\u2019t be able to do that until my shot improves and my 401G can handle it. Every small session win will get my 401G closer to that level and every small loss will set me back from that goal. Working on my shot is a given but the shot and the bankroll go hand in hand to get to the next level.<\/p>\n<p>\tI think any \u201ctake away\u201d from my post for you all would be to sit down after a session and write down some notes if you don\u2019t do that already. It is not the most fun way to spend time in a casino but we all need to take breaks from play anyway and you just may see something that you have initially missed. Also, pay attention to your discipline when playing on a lower denomination table. Don\u2019t be like me.  \ud83d\ude25 Use the same betting strategies that you have been practicing at home for all tables. <\/p>\n<p>\tThanks for reading. I know it was a pretty long post but hopefully it will save other GTC players from making my foolish mistakes!  \ud83d\ude0e<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> ACPA on July 22, 2012, 9:21 pm<\/p>\n<div>Sounds like good thinking to me and so it was a good learning trip.<\/p>\n<p>\tNoah<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on July 23, 2012, 3:04 am<\/p>\n<div>Getagrip are you back living in US?<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Guest on July 23, 2012, 2:02 pm<\/p>\n<div>The GTC throw is great. The betting advice is great. But I have to say that the hardest thing at the tables is not getting caught up in the bad bets like when I was a stupid gambler. It sounds easy. Do not make bad bets but when you are at the table something can come over you and you start throwing bad bet after bad bet out. You do win a few but you and I know that overall you are throwing your money away.<\/p>\n<p>\tDiscipline is the hardest damn thing for me!<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> The WoW Man on July 23, 2012, 2:47 pm<\/p>\n<div>Thanks for the report. I can certainly indentify with being more reckless on the $5 tables.<br \/>\n\tI applaud your tenacity in trying to be the best that you can be. It is exciting to read that your shot is improving to where you want it to be.<\/p>\n<p>\tIt sounds like your whole game is coming together. Hip, Hip Hooray!!<\/p>\n<p>\tCatch you later \ud83d\ude0e<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> JRC on July 23, 2012, 5:24 pm<\/p>\n<div>Getagrip,<\/p>\n<p>\tFirst let me say you are doing the right thing with you session notes.<br \/>\n\tAll the pratice in the world will only take you so far.<br \/>\n\tWhen you understand and admit most of our problems stand in our on shoes can a long term solution be found.<\/p>\n<p>\tWhat style of betting do you play? (place bets or come and odds) <br \/>\n\tWhat $ level on a $10 table?<br \/>\n\tHow about on a $5 table?<\/p>\n<p>\tThe trick here is to bet close to the same total amount on both tables.<br \/>\n\tFor example if you like come betting with double odds and 3 working bets on a $10 table bet the same way on $5 table but increase you odds to have the same money at risk on the same 3 bets.<br \/>\n\tThis will keep you in what you have already said is comfortable while at the same time it will force the same disipline you play on the $10 table.<\/p>\n<p>\tIf you like place betting do like wise.<br \/>\n\tIncrease the amount so the dollars at risk is the same and the number of bets is the same.<br \/>\n\tPlay the same game for both table limits changing the amount of each bet to keep the risk the same.<\/p>\n<p>\tIf you are sucessful at a $10 table Then you should be sucessful at the $5 table with the same game and larger bets.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi! I recently returned home from a casino trip. I took copious session notes this trip which I have not really done before. 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