{"id":10285,"date":"2021-05-18T20:36:36","date_gmt":"2021-05-18T20:36:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2021\/05\/18\/actual-house-advantage-is-not-mathematical\/"},"modified":"2021-05-18T20:36:36","modified_gmt":"2021-05-18T20:36:36","slug":"actual-house-advantage-is-not-mathematical","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2021\/05\/18\/actual-house-advantage-is-not-mathematical\/","title":{"rendered":"Actual &#8220;House Advantage&#8221; Is Not Mathematical"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><\/p>\n<p>Over the last decade (longer?), mathematician Skinny has given us wonderfully accurate, mathematically calculated, House Advantage (HA) for every bet on the craps table. My favorite is when he mathematically proved and showed how a simple Hardways bet beats the very popular All-Tall-Small bet. Not that he was promoting it, Skinny called his alternative long shot bet, the \u201cBig Enchilada\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>However, as often happens, human behavior undoes the beautifully constructed and mathematically sound House Advantage. Yes, human behavior, that means you and me, gives the House a much bigger advantage over the player than we are led to believe. More specifically, \u201cbad\u201d human behavior undoes the math. And, while the casino sets the conditions to maximize this \u201cbad\u201d human behavior (chips instead of cash, free drinks that dull the pain of the loss, and much more), the blame rests entirely on the player.<\/p>\n<p>Please realize, the math we use is for \u201cthe long run\u201d. Between you and the casino, only one of the two parties stays at the table for the long run, and it ain\u2019t you \u2013 it\u2019s the casino. At the craps table, normal human behavior is to STAY at the table when:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>You\u2019re winning.<\/li>\n<li>You\u2019re losing but you had a big win earlier \u2013 some time that day, anyway.<\/li>\n<li>You\u2019re losing but, \u201cBy golly, this table is cold. I\u2019ll go join that table with the cheering.\u201d (BTW, leaving a table and moving to a different table \u2013 it\u2019s the same as never leaving the first table.)<\/li>\n<li>You\u2019re losing, but, \u201cThis next shooter had a pretty good roll last time.\u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Normal human behavior is to only LEAVE the table when:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>You\u2019re outta money!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>See the point? Players have a lot of reasons to stay at the table, while there\u2019s only one good reason to leave: \u201cI\u2019m outta money!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As you can see, human behavior amplifies the House Advantage to a breathtaking degree! Even when we win, adrenaline then keeps us at the table to lose some, or all, of our win.<\/p>\n<p>So, what is the real HA? Ok, first you take the bets all players placed on the All-Tall-Small for a month, subtract the All-Tall-Small payouts that month, and wa-la, you now have the actual HA. Wait a minute. I\u2019m pretty sure the Boxman never recorded what each player bet, how much and when, on the All-Tall-Small, nor on my odds for each number.<\/p>\n<p>How many times have you heard the Boxman report to the Floor Manager about the action at your table, \u201cThe 6 and 8 Place bets sure are making us money tonight!\u201d Correct answer: Never! How can that be? It\u2019s because the casino is making so much money, they don\u2019t need to know which bets won, which bets lost or how much.<\/p>\n<p>As scripture says, time and chance happens to us all (Ecclesiastes 9:11). But make a bet, time and chance are not your friends. Gambling is bad human behavior, and bad decisions amplify its effect on the House Advantage \u2013 against you.<\/p>\n<p>This why I love how the Dominator begins each Golden Touch Seminar with, \u201cYou came in here as a Gambler. Our goal is that when you leave this seminar, and if you follow our instruction, your gambling days are over. You\u2019ll be an Advantage Player \u2013 the casino\u2019s worst nightmare! After all, it\u2019s so much more fun being a winner.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the Golden Touch seminar, I learned the right mind, the right behavior and the skills necessary to be an Advantage Behavior. Math and human behavior are now on my side. Man, what a difference!<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on May 18, 2021, 10:44 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Amen Preacher.\u00a0 Thanks for making this post.\u00a0 Many will learn from it.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on May 19, 2021, 2:06 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Great read! \u00a0And I have to stay on guard for that&#8230;. it&#8217;s too easy to come up with an argument to keep plugging along.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on May 19, 2021, 2:41 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>As always a great read and right on!<\/p>\n<p>Dom<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Cotton Lob on May 24, 2021, 1:44 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">Thats why you have to revisit &#8220;the book&#8221; and read what&#8217;s in it. Your game practice needs to be constantly reinforced. My book by Dominator is beaten, bent, folded, and written on. Reinforce what you learned in class and you will be a disciplined successful player.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I like your thoughts Preacher.<\/p>\n<div id=\"wpfa-290\" class=\"wpforo-attached-file\"><a class=\"wpforo-default-attachment\" href=\"\/\/crapsclub.goldentouchcraps.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/wpforo\/default_attachments\/1621820910-june-2020.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fas fa-paperclip\"><\/i>&nbsp;june-2020.jpeg<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on May 24, 2021, 1:08 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Cotton Lob&#8212;great thoughts.\u00a0 You are correct the GTC is the only way to be a consistent winner at craps.\u00a0 BTY&#8211;just curious, where are the craps tables in the picture that is attached to your post.<\/p>\n<p>Rose and Doc<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on May 24, 2021, 6:00 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Is that your game room before the party . I guess most of your guests are a little older . just saying never seen so many seats at a craps table .<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Cotton Lob on May 25, 2021, 2:57 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt\">I wish that photo was my game room in the barn but sadly it is in Boston from 2020 early summer.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"wpfa-292\" class=\"wpforo-attached-file\"><a class=\"wpforo-default-attachment\" href=\"\/\/crapsclub.goldentouchcraps.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/wpforo\/default_attachments\/1621954634-table-4.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i class=\"fas fa-paperclip\"><\/i>\u00a0table-4.jpeg<\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"wpfa-293\" class=\"wpforo-attached-file\"><a class=\"wpforo-default-attachment\" href=\"\/\/crapsclub.goldentouchcraps.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/wpforo\/default_attachments\/1621954688-Table-3.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\"><i class=\"fas fa-paperclip\"><\/i>&nbsp;Table-3.jpeg<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the last decade (longer?), mathematician Skinny has given us wonderfully accurate, mathematically calculated, House Advantage (HA) for every bet on the craps table. 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