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What are the benefits of this game to us as dice controllers? Does it give a better edge to the casino as far as payouts. As a come bettor is it a better game for us to play?<\/p>\n
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Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on September 25, 2020, 1:43 pm<\/p>\n Great question and I thank you!<\/p>\n The higher the odds that a casino gives – like 10X or more odds, the better for the player.<\/p>\n The 3\/4\/5 odds game was developed by Harrahs casino. It was developed to make it easier on the dealers to make payouts. If a player takes max odds on ANY number the pay out is the same. $10 come with max odds on any number will pay $70.<\/p>\n So, for the player that SHOULD be\u00a0 a come bettor, the more odds the casino offers the better for the player. 3\/4\/5 odds game is just designed to make it easier for payouts<\/p>\n Dom<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on September 25, 2020, 1:45 pm<\/p>\n With all of the GTC instruction–grip, throw and betting–you are giving the casino a run for their money.\u00a0 Remember with an SRR (sevens to Rolls Ratio) of 7.23 or better you now have the advantage.\u00a0 And the betting can also increase your advantage–NOT THE CASINO’s!!<\/p>\n We like to look at our betting advantage in terms of dollars not percentage.\u00a0 For examples we will compare pass line and come bets against place betting.\u00a0 As you may notice at a craps table many random rollers don’t bet the pass line and come bet, but after a point is established they will bet all of the box numbers across, including the point.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n As examples let’s compare place betting to pass line and come betting on the inside numbers 5,6,8,9 but the concept discussed below is true on the 4 and 10 as well.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n Using pass line and come betting the house edge on all box numbers is 1.4% in favor of the casino on the base bet with no edge on the odds–on a $10 base bet that’s 14 cents.\u00a0 But by taking odds you increase your bet with no increase in the $.14.\u00a0 \u00a0 Let’s say you make a $10 bet with 5 times odds ($50) you have a total bet of $60. As mentioned above the house edge is still only $.14 on the entire $60 bet.\u00a0 You have spread the $.14 house advantage over the entire $60 bet to well under 1\/2 of 1% on the total bet.\u00a0 A bet any well practiced GTC player can easily over come in the long run.\u00a0 This holds true for all the box numbers 4,5,6,8,9,10.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n Now let’s look at placing the 6 and 8.\u00a0 The percentage in favor of the house is 1,5%.\u00a0 This appears to be about the same as the 1.4% percentage as pass line \/ come betting.\u00a0 BUT WRONG.\u00a0 The 1.5% is on the entire bet of $60.\u00a0 In dollars, 1.5% is applied to the entire $60 bet.\u00a0 So 1.5% times $60 is 90 cents–a much larger amount.\u00a0 This again may seen not much, but remember these higher dollar amounts are how the casinos build multi million dollar casinos.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n A similar comparison can be made for placing the 5 and 9.\u00a0 The house advantage on these 2 numbers is 4% and again on the entire $60 for a $2.40 advantage to the house.\u00a0 But the pass line and come bets on the 5 and 9, the house house advantage is still only $.14 a super big decrease in the house advantage.<\/p>\n Rose and Doc have practiced both ways of betting at home and over time the Pass Line\/Come betting beats place betting.<\/p>\n We know that other schools teach, that with pass line and come betting you have to hit a number twice to win. While with place betting you only have to hit a number once for a payday.\u00a0 While this is a true statement, a quick 7 out with six place bets from the get go will put you in a hole that may well be hard to over come.\u00a0 Example, a point seven out with 6 bets on the table put you down 6 bets.\u00a0 Now the next shooter sets his point and you again place all six box numbers you now have over come 12 bets in order to just break even.<\/p>\n Just one person’s analysis of the best way to play the game.\u00a0 Look forward to other comments on this board.<\/p>\n \u00a0<\/p>\n \u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> High Arc on September 25, 2020, 9:19 pm<\/p>\n @dominator. So in a 3\/4\/5\/ game it prevents us from making more money per roll versus 10x odds game. It will take us longer in the 3\/4\/5 game to get to the same winning result as in the higher odds game. Does the 3\/4\/5 game cut into the tables\/casinos \u00a0bottom line (not that we care) by not offering the higher odds? I also understand that it makes it easier for the dealers (Mostly the ones that can\u2019t count) when paying out. The 3\/4\/5 game is in the casinos where I play in AC now. Those same casinos didn\u2019t have that last year & up into January 2020.\u00a0<\/p>\n Thanks Dom<\/p>\n High Arc<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on September 25, 2020, 10:05 pm<\/p>\n When you are a come player you are cutting into the casino’s profit because you are making bets that have the lowest house edge<\/p>\n \u00a0<\/p>\n Dom<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n Posted by:<\/strong> bminus1 on September 26, 2020, 2:42 pm<\/p>\n