{"id":10189,"date":"2020-05-04T21:04:09","date_gmt":"2020-05-04T21:04:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2020\/05\/04\/the-new-normal\/"},"modified":"2020-05-04T21:04:09","modified_gmt":"2020-05-04T21:04:09","slug":"the-new-normal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2020\/05\/04\/the-new-normal\/","title":{"rendered":"The new normal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><\/p>\n<p>I read that the casinos in Las Vegas when they reopen may only allow six people to play at a table at any one time. I did not see where they would have to shoot from or what other steps they plan on taking. Though I play in AC, I assume the LV will open first, since the Northeast is not open yet. LV most probably will be the template for everyone else. I would appreciate hearing if anything else is currently known.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> High Arc on May 6, 2020, 12:50 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>I have been following all of the casino scenarios thus far. It seems that the general consensus can possibly be, one less dealer, only six players and the tables will be $25.00.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>High Arc<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on May 6, 2020, 4:19 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>From what I&#8217;m hearing, SL1 and SL2 would be left open to distance from Stick. \u00a0If so, I&#8217;d expect both hook positions more in the straight out area to distance from base dealer.<\/p>\n<p>I could see everyone implementing the no box position to save over 25% of labor on a table.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> taglinejudge on May 15, 2020, 2:04 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Yesterday, Angel of The Winds Casino reopened.\u00a0 The new procedure is once you get to the casino, you are to text a number to the casino and they will answer you back with a welcome.\u00a0 They will then ask how many people are in your party and once that is known, they will send you final text inviting you to come into the casino.\u00a0 When you get into line to go into the casino, they take your temperature, check your ID and make sure that you are wearing a mask.\u00a0 Once that is finished, you are welcomed into the casino.\u00a0 The only problem with this is they failed to mention that only the slots machines were in play along with the only board game:\u00a0 Baccarat.\u00a0 They have not opened the craps tables or the blackjack tables.<\/p>\n<p>What was more frustrating was that I had to wait in my car for 2 hours before being allowed into the casino only to find out that the game that I play, was closed for the night.\u00a0 In summary, I waited for 2 hours to get into the casino and stayed there for all of 10 minutes.\u00a0 Moral to this story, when the casinos reopen, call and find out if your game will be available to play.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on May 15, 2020, 2:25 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Thank you for the update Judge!<\/p>\n<p>Dom<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dice Shark on May 15, 2020, 11:42 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>My craps career is over. I will not wait in line to enter a casino or be forced to wear a mask or gloves.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Preacher on May 17, 2020, 10:32 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>This is not the new normal. The social distance rules will end, certainly once there is a vaccine for COVID-19, perhaps sooner. Common sense fails to end social distancing in a state, there are these pesky protected liberties that will intervene: right of assembly and freedom of religion. In this country, the government can restrict our liberty only when there is a compelling interest. Now that our medical services are well equipped to treat the COVID-19 sick, I would argue the general welfare of the people has been protected and the government no longer has a compelling interest to restrict our daily lives. I believe President Trump agrees.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> bminus1 on May 17, 2020, 11:53 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>The notion of a vaccine may not be the panacea for 2 reasons:<\/p>\n<p>(1) According to some virologists, the manner in which COVID-19 interacts with the immune system is not understood &#8211; not too different than HIV or the common cold.\u00a0 After 50 years of research for a cold vaccine and 20 years research for an HIV vaccine, there has been no success.<\/p>\n<p>(2) Historically, only about 45% of people take the flu vaccine and it typically is only 45% to 85% effective for those who have been vaccinated.\u00a0 If that trend would apply to the &#8216;rona, then that leaves 60% to 80% unprotected.\u00a0 Not very effective even when a vaccine exists.\u00a0 That is why America has typically between 12,000 to 61,000 deaths each year from the seasonal flu &#8211; which has a vaccine readily available.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Preacher on May 17, 2020, 12:51 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Attached is a photo of the craps table at Buffalo Run Oklahoma, taken yesterday. The picture was taken by the fellow craps player at SR1, when he stepped back from the table. So, one player can be at SR1\/SR2.<\/p>\n<div id=\"wpfa-232\" class=\"wpforo-attached-file\"><a class=\"wpforo-default-attachment\" href=\"\/\/crapsclub.goldentouchcraps.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/wpforo\/default_attachments\/1589719864-EFBB8760-39AF-438C-98DA-A9D9C435BC35.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i class=\"fas fa-paperclip\"><\/i>\u00a0EFBB8760-39AF-438C-98DA-A9D9C435BC35.jpeg<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on May 17, 2020, 12:53 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>You are making the Preacher\u2019s point for him.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t shelter in place or social distance for the flu, HIV or common cold. Yet we know the flu causes death in the tens of thousands annually. HIV was a death sentence until recently. There are deaths from the common cold for those with certain conditions.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t take extreme precautions from them because our medical community can handle those infected. The same will be true for COVID-19 if we are not there already.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Hence it will become another normal risk of life like so many other risks. It will be up to us to protect ourselves as we see fit. The government has no right to place demands on our liberties once the compellingly reason has passed.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on May 17, 2020, 1:14 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>They may or may not be able to develop an effective vaccine. But I\u2019m fairly certain we will have therapeutic and possibly prophylactic drugs pretty soon. At that point this should not be much different than other risks. Most especially for those not in the high risk category for death.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Here is the CDC\u2019s recommendation for the flu:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"d-block d-md-none\">\n<div class=\"card bg-transparent border-0 mb-3\">\n<div class=\"card-body p-0\">\n<p>If you get sick with flu, antiviral drugs may be a treatment option.<\/p>\n<p>Check with your doctor promptly if you are at high risk of serious flu complications and you get <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/flu\/symptoms\/symptoms.htm\">flu symptoms<\/a>.\u00a0 People at high risk of flu complications include young children, adults 65 years of age and older, pregnant women, and people with certain medical conditions such as asthma, diabetes and heart disease.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"d-block d-md-none\">\n<div class=\"card bg-transparent border-0 mb-3\">\n<div class=\"card-body p-0\">\n<p>When used for treatment,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/flu\/treatment\/whatyoushould.htm\">antiviral drugs<\/a> can lessen symptoms and shorten the time you are sick by 1 or 2 days. They also can prevent serious <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/flu\/symptoms\/symptoms.htm\">flu complications<\/a>, like pneumonia. For people at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/flu\/highrisk\/index.htm\">high risk<\/a> of serious flu complications, treatment with antiviral drugs can mean the difference between milder or more serious illness possibly resulting in a hospital stay.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/flu\/treatment\/index.html<\/p>\n<div class=\"card bg-transparent border-0 mb-3\">\n<div class=\"card-body p-0\">\u00a0<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on May 17, 2020, 3:21 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Just saying that I totally agree with Preacher&#8217;s and Skinny&#8217;s views. It is something I have said since the beginning of this stupid, IMHO, shut down.<\/p>\n<p>Dom<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on May 19, 2020, 3:03 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Agreed to the max! \u00a0Let me out!!! \u00a0(well, I did go down to NC for 2 weeks to work on things at my cabin).<\/p>\n<p>FYI on one casino that someone went to yesterday. \u00a0This one in western, NC, which I haven&#8217;t been to yet but will likely in June, opened by invitation only, went to play craps. \u00a0This one only allowed 2 people per side, S2 and straight out on each side. \u00a0Table minimums were the same per this person. \u00a0Masks were required, but the casino was smoke free. \u00a0Interesting mix of protocols now that it&#8217;s going live!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CliffM1 on June 20, 2020, 10:39 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>My attitude about the &#8220;new normal&#8221; is changing.<\/p>\n<p>I went to the two casinos in my area (CT) and one craps is unplayable but the other shining casino is getting better to me.<\/p>\n<p>FIrst on the negative side, I really hate having to wear a mask, hot and uncomfortable.\u00a0 But, you can remove the mask to drink.\u00a0 SO I get drinks and tip very well and let the server know to keep them coming.<\/p>\n<p>SEcond on the negative is if you go during peak times it may take an hour+ to get on a table.\u00a0 I was hoping they would use some type of system, like poker, where you can put your name in for the next opening.\u00a0 Last night (Friday) it was whoever was lucky enough to be wandering past someone who was leaving.<\/p>\n<p>On the brighter side there are some advantages to the new normal.<\/p>\n<p>First advantage is you don&#8217;t have to deal with people pushing in and crowding you while you throw.\u00a0 the crew makes sure players and nonplayers are not crowding the tables.<\/p>\n<p>Second advantage is there are only 6 players at the table.\u00a0 Last night two players where not throwing the dice.\u00a0 So the dice came back around fairly quickly.\u00a0 Although the table limits where higher than I normally play ($25), I did not lose as much on the random shooters.<\/p>\n<p>Third is since there are only three players at the opposite end there are not as many chips in the way.\u00a0 There is always a nice clean area to land in.<\/p>\n<p>I have been practicing on the throwing station in my house, but not the same as the casino.\u00a0 It was the second time I have been out since the world shut down.\u00a0 All in all if this is the new normal, I may be able to live with it.<\/p>\n<p>Good rolling<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CliffM1 on June 21, 2020, 3:49 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Looking for some advice from the Masters.<\/p>\n<p>With the new normal I am throwing from further back.\u00a0 Two questions about the added distance.<\/p>\n<p>1.\u00a0 Other than a little longer back swing, is there any other adjustments to the grip or throw I should make?<\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0 What it the best way to lower the arc.\u00a0 With the longer throw does it require a lower arc?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Thanks<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> HardNine on June 22, 2020, 10:53 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>@cliffm1 it depends on the table. It\u2019s not just the arc but also your target area. Study the action of the dice as others throw to determine where your first LZ should be. Otherwise start with your standard toss with a little more backswing as you said. For lower trajectory, start your dice a couple of inches back&#8230; small adjustments and smaller bets until you find it.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on June 22, 2020, 1:31 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote data-userid=\"880\" data-postid=\"36315\" data-mention=\"cliffm1\">\n<div class=\"wpforo-post-quote-author\"><strong> Posted by: @cliffm1 <\/strong><\/div>\n<p>Looking for some advice from the Masters.<\/p>\n<p>With the new normal I am throwing from further back.\u00a0 Two questions about the added distance.<\/p>\n<p>1.\u00a0 Other than a little longer back swing, is there any other adjustments to the grip or throw I should make?<\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0 What it the best way to lower the arc.\u00a0 With the longer throw does it require a lower arc?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Thanks<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>answer to 1 is no<\/p>\n<p>Answer to 2 &#8211; best way to lower the arc if you want to lower the arc is to practice throwing it lower. But the lowering the arc is dependent on the bounce not because you are throwing the nice longer.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Dom<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CliffM1 on June 22, 2020, 2:22 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>I do not have a table yet.\u00a0 Using throwing station.\u00a0 I am throwing from 9 feet.<\/p>\n<p>I was using 7 1\/2 to 8 feet for SL1, would you recommend longer than 9 ft to practice?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on June 22, 2020, 2:34 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>No, not really, but what I advise everyone to do is when you go to the casino that you play at, go to an empty table and eye ball your heel against the back wall and step off heel to toe the distance. Then go home and put that distance to your practice table<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Dom<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CliffM1 on June 22, 2020, 3:00 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Dom<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for the info.\u00a0 Will step it off this week.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on June 23, 2020, 12:06 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>What Dom says will work.\u00a0 Here are some alternative measurements that we use to determine how far apart to place the throwing station from the receiving station.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A 12 foot table is 144 inches.\u00a0 \u00a0Doc is great with math\u00a0 \ud83d\ude42\u00a0 The center of the table (the middle of the prop bets in the middle of a craps table will be 72 inches.\u00a0 We allow about 18 inches for the stick man (he is often a big one)so the shoulder of our throwing arm should be approximately 90 inches from the back wall of the throwing station.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In the casino we can usually &#8220;eye ball&#8221; a table to determine if it is a 12 or 14 footer.\u00a0 However, you can&#8217;t take a tape measure and measure the table (duh) so like Dom,we walk the side of the table.\u00a0 Doc&#8217;s stride is right at 3 feet so he casually walks the length of the table and 4 steps will give us the length of a 12 footer.\u00a0 If we are not quite to the end of the table with 3 steps we know it is a 14 footer.\u00a0 Try not to stand out as you walk the table, but casually look like you are walking through the casino.<\/p>\n<p>Hope this helps.<\/p>\n<p>Rose and Doc<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on June 24, 2020, 3:59 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>look up casino conditions on this site may help some .<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I read that the casinos in Las Vegas when they reopen may only allow six people to play at a table at any one time. 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