{"id":10160,"date":"2020-02-26T12:05:14","date_gmt":"2020-02-26T12:05:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2020\/02\/26\/throw-counting\/"},"modified":"2020-02-26T12:05:14","modified_gmt":"2020-02-26T12:05:14","slug":"throw-counting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2020\/02\/26\/throw-counting\/","title":{"rendered":"throw counting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nLooking for some input on if there is a preferred GTC method of tracking throws and score hits at the table.<br \/>\n\tOne of the instructors mentioned he can walk up to a table during a throw and look at a GTC players rack and see what is going on.<br \/>\n\tHow does everyone track the throws?<br \/>\n\tAlso, I was reading the big skinny betting and do we have a way to track score hits also?<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MrPiP on February 26, 2020, 8:28 pm<\/p>\n<div>Cliff, <\/p>\n<p>\tBesides using the 5 count. We encourage that you only track the number of throws using chips if your interested in the metric of a thrower at the table.  Using a pen and paper and writing the shooters results (throw by throw)  in live play will shift attention toward you and your teammates. Doc and Rose have a great method (using chips) and I will let him chime in on this thread.   At home practicing, should be the only place where you track your throws and check your own edge.  Looking at someone&#8217;s rack does not tell the whole story and unless you are on most of the control thrower&#8217;s rolls you should bet on them just like you would a random roller (Dom stressed this in class). And remember, the only throw you can rely on is your own, Practice&#8230;Practice&#8230;Practice&#8230;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> MichaelB on February 26, 2020, 10:35 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;CliffM1&quot; wrote:<\/strong> Looking for some input on if there is a preferred GTC method of tracking throws and score hits at the table.<br \/>\n\tOne of the instructors mentioned he can walk up to a table during a throw and look at a GTC players rack and see what is going on.<br \/>\n\tHow does everyone track the throws?<br \/>\n\tAlso, I was reading the big skinny betting and do we have a way to track score hits also?<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\ti do my five count with $1 chips laid flat to the left of my bankroll in the rack.  after that i use a $25 chip laid flat to the right of my bankroll to represent hits.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dr Crapology on February 27, 2020, 1:10 am<\/p>\n<div>Here is how Rose and Doc count the number throws as we proceed through as well as tracking tracking the five count for a random roller.  <\/p>\n<p>\tTo count our throws&#8211;or that of a known GTC player&#8211; here is what we do.  We hold one white throw in our non throwing hand, throw the dice and place the white chip in a special spot in the chip rail.  We do this on each and every roll.  Once the shooter has his 5th roll, we replace the 5 white chips with a red chip&#8211;the same routine until we get to 10 rolls, take down the new five white chips, and replace with a second red chip&#8211;until we go to a green $25 chip.  I think you get the idea.<\/p>\n<p>\tAs to 5 counting a random roller after he makes the 5 count we stop counting and make out one bet.  <\/p>\n<p>\tDoc<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CliffM1 on February 27, 2020, 4:17 am<\/p>\n<div>Doc<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks for the info.<\/p>\n<p>\tIf you wouldn&#8217;t mind giving me a little advice.  I went to the casino for the first time since returning from Vegas and had a great night.<br \/>\n\tthe first throw was 33 and the second was 24.  I tripled my buy in and left.  My question is this.<br \/>\n\tI was at a $10 table and on my throws I was come betting and doing 2X odds ($20).  After I had most of the numbers covered, it was just on and off.<br \/>\n\tAt what point would you suggest I start raising the odds on my come bets? <br \/>\n\tMy goal when I enter the casino is to double my buy in.<\/p>\n<p>\tYour thoughts are always appreciated.<br \/>\n\tThanks<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Skinny on February 27, 2020, 7:27 am<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;CliffM1&quot; wrote:<\/strong> <br \/>\n\tAlso, I was reading the big skinny betting and do we have a way to track score hits also?<\/p>\n<p>\tThanks<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tThe following article should answer your question:<\/p>\n<p>\t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.goldentouchcasino.net\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=8096&amp;p=22125&amp;hilit\">http:\/\/www.goldentouchcasino.net\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=8096&amp;p=22125&amp;hilit<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> CliffM1 on February 27, 2020, 3:41 pm<\/p>\n<div>Skinny<\/p>\n<p>\tThank you for the info.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on February 27, 2020, 8:31 pm<\/p>\n<div>Some like to add one dollar to their place bet for every point win during a roll which is easy to track . I keep track of nothing . Except in practice . Some just add one unit to their bets and can tell from that about roll length .<br \/>\n\tSome like the time thing but that can vary the roll a lot .<br \/>\n\tI like to see if I can fill the rack up with chips instead of counting .<br \/>\n\tThere are many different ways for counting that if you just look at some ones rack it may be confusing just saying .<br \/>\n\tI hope that you all can change those red chips to greens during your counting .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> hankfrid on March 5, 2020, 3:31 am<\/p>\n<div>I also use what Dr. Crapology said above about total count for a shooter.  I even do it for random shooters in case they want to know how many throws they had.  <\/p>\n<p>\tNow for the 5-count and beyond:<br \/>\n\tWhat I like to do is my chips are in rack close to me.  My count of throws is either to the right of that (buy-in to left) or in rack next to me if not super-busy table.<br \/>\n\tI use the top rack as positional counting.  So a 4 rolled is $1 chip far left of front tray (laid flat on side) and 10 is far right.  6 and 8 in middle etc.  Non box throws (craps\/11) I place same way but next to my buyin where I use for throw count.  Once the 5 count is reached and I place whatever bets I want, I move a $5 chip to my throw count area.  I continue the top rack to help track what numbers the shooter is hitting most.  This helps like when I bet 6 &amp; 8 and hit a few times and want to place another number as a bet.  I look at my top rack and it helps me decide what number I want to bet next.<\/p>\n<p>\tI will say it so nice when you get a green chip in your throw count area.  You should be smiling nicely by then unless you&#8217;re betting strategy is faulty  \ud83d\ude08 <\/p>\n<p>\tHank<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Looking for some input on if there is a preferred GTC method of tracking throws and score hits at the table. 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