{"id":10060,"date":"2019-07-27T04:04:47","date_gmt":"2019-07-27T04:04:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2019\/07\/27\/consider-this\/"},"modified":"2019-07-27T04:04:47","modified_gmt":"2019-07-27T04:04:47","slug":"consider-this","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/2019\/07\/27\/consider-this\/","title":{"rendered":"Consider this"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- Original Post Content --><br \/>\nIf someone puts their chips in your landing zone and you cannot maneuver the dice around them, is it their fault for putting the chips there, or is it your fault because you made the shot knowing you were going to hit the chips? If the dealer is giving you a bad time is it his fault because he\u2019s an ass or is it your fault for not taking your betts down and finding another table? If players by end in the middle of your roll drop their money on the table while you were attempting to make a shot is it their fault for doing that , Or is it your fault because you made the shot? When you think about all of this basically the person with the dice is truly in control of the game. They can choose when they want to play, when they do not want to play, when they want to make the shot, and when they do not want to make the shot. So honestly who\u2019s to blame for a poor quality shot?<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>Replies:<\/h3>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> bminus1 on July 27, 2019, 11:35 am<\/p>\n<div>Good point on your choices to play.  The way I see it, the casinos have 3 advantages over the player:<br \/>\n\t  (1) House advantage on ALL bets except the free odds &#8211; the game is biased in the casino&#8217;s favor.<br \/>\n\t  (2) Unlimited money &#8211; they can outlast you. However, you can reduce the effects of this house advantage with a sizable 401G.<br \/>\n\t  (3) Risk management &#8211; like max\/min bet ratio, banning, reduced comps, petty harassment, etc.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe player has 2 advantages over the casino:<br \/>\n\t  (1) The player can choose when and where to play &#8211; this is the concept of the original post.<br \/>\n\t  (2) The player chooses the amount of the bet (within the limits), when to make the bet (5 count), and what bets to make (avoid high house advantage bets like prop bets: anything in the middle of the table.  Stick with pass, come, don&#8217;t pass, don&#8217;t come. In other words, stick with bets that a basic-to-intermediate advantage player can have a measurable, positive advantage over the house. <\/p>\n<p>\t_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________<br \/>\n\tThe more I practice, the luckier I get.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Cotton Lob on July 27, 2019, 2:42 pm<\/p>\n<div>Both of you  brothelman  and  bminus bring up very good points.  I was thinking about the very <br \/>\n\tsame subject driving home from a casino revisit yesterday.<\/p>\n<p>\tDr Crapology got me thinking with his discovery of poor playing tables on his recent trip.  He had the discipline  to walk away.  If there are no other players at the table that is a clear sign there is a problem. <\/p>\n<p>\tMany of the slow casinos  will only have only half of the table open because of using one less dealer. You may not be able to claim the stick position desired.  I was told by one particular casino dealer the reason for a long fourteen or sixteen foot table is to avoid  an additional $100,000 per table fee paid to the state.<\/p>\n<p>\tDealers who are watching the big screen instead of the craps table is a reason to leave. <\/p>\n<p>\tDealers talking up a storm and messing around instead of being attentive to the players. <\/p>\n<p>\tThere is one particular joint that has dealers acting out-right retarded with their antics. And they are never making tips.<\/p>\n<p>\tOn occasion you may have dealers create distractions when shooting. I actually had a change of the box who did that right off;  not knowing I had been placing tips on my bets. I grabbed my chips and walked.<\/p>\n<p>\tPoor lighting is no fun unless you are in a saloon.  There is nothing like being in a casino that has good lighting and a quality sound system.<\/p>\n<p>\tI have witnessed very good Box Men and Women act in keeping discipline at the table. I immediately  throw out a tip for them. <\/p>\n<p>\tThere is an old casino on Fremont Street  in Las Vegas  that is known for being a place to get your start as a dealer.  It always amazes me when I approach the craps table at 4AM to see  the dealers are all standing at attention waiting. They are not horsing around  running their mouth.  They are attentive and professional.  It is always an enjoyable experience.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> brothelman on July 28, 2019, 1:10 am<\/p>\n<div>Never judge an empty table because it\u2019s empty empty tables can often be dreams. Learn about table conditions from the experts. Learn how to play from the experts. Meaning the instructors. And always remember 95+ percent of all people that come through this journey Are here to either get rich quick order just have fun.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Dominator on July 28, 2019, 12:56 pm<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>&quot;brothelman&quot; wrote:<\/strong> Never judge an empty table because it\u2019s empty empty tables can often be dreams. Learn about table conditions from the experts. Learn how to play from the experts. Meaning the instructors. And always remember 95+ percent of all people that come through this journey Are here to either get rich quick order just have fun.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\n\tYou said this before I could get to it &#8230;&#8230;  \ud83d\ude42 <\/p>\n<p>\tMany reasons for an empty table and most of those reasons are not because the table isn&#8217;t good<\/p>\n<p>\tDom<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> brothelman on July 28, 2019, 4:51 pm<\/p>\n<div>The problem is not the empty table of the problem is people\u2019s ability to read a table and man I hear all kinds of things about different tables and I go on I look at them and I and I just wonder what what\u2019s being said but then I remember everybody has a different taste and some people didn\u2019t drink the Kool-Aid!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"migrated-reply\" style=\"border: 1px solid #eee;padding: 15px;margin-bottom: 15px;border-radius: 5px\">\n<p><strong>Posted by:<\/strong> Finisher on August 2, 2019, 7:03 am<\/p>\n<div>Some just don&#8217;t like to play alone . I wait till the puck is in OFF pos. but not till the roller ends his roll .Even when I am the second person to arrive .<br \/>\n\tI have seen lots of dealers say just put down your money in middle of roll and not even think that it may not be to your liking . Had to say that it was not right many times .<br \/>\n\tGood Rolling. \ud83d\ude00  \ud83d\ude42<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If someone puts their chips in your landing zone and you cannot maneuver the dice around them, is it their fault for putting the chips there, or is it your fault because you made the shot knowing you were going&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10060","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-craps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10060","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/34"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10060"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10060\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10060"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10060"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/forumarchives.tmsites.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10060"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}