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This is about Random rollers which I try to stay away from . first I seldom bet the pass line on them and then only one or two bets if any . Mostly a come bet ( one ) till it wins . At times I have seen rollers roll in the 20s and still not get a win on that come bet .I mean lots of times .

So if I were to make a 1-1-1 on the STA and then when they made their point took my win and stayed up on the STA would there be a problem with that win from the casino? 

I tried this on the RTW machine . It just happened that I made the bonus bet and then when the point was made I  took down my pass line bet . I noticed that the bonus bet was still up but it was only roll 3 and the roller only rolled 6 rolls so I lost that bonus bet . That got me thinking that he needed only 2 more rolls and I would have lost nothing . That for the 3 dollar bet I would still have a chance to win a lot more .

Just think the record is Held by a random roller as this game luck does play into it even with control . Like a hole in one in golf . Like Dom says some were right now there is somebody having a long roll and it may be a random roller . It just may not be were you are .

On the RTW machine I bet that one dollar on the bonus and have gotten my dollar back a lot and have even won more . I like it when the point is made on roll 7 then I know that I will get my money back and Maybe more . Since my record is 17 rolls before EST. a point I kind of like this bonus bet . It stays up till you 7 out for those who have not played it . One thing though is that some casinos do NOT give you points playing it so be careful if you try .

Hope to hear some good feed back.

Good Rolling.


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Posted by: Chevy on June 27, 2022, 8:21 pm

Hi Finisher – my experience is, it depends on the Casino. Most require at least a table min bet before you can play the ATS. In that case, you can’t just have the 1-1-1 bet without $15 in action elsewhere on the game (if it is a $15 table) I have seen some other places where they don’t require minimum action, but they are very rare in LV. Off-Strip places seem to be a little less stringent on the table min vs. Strip properties, in my experience. 

Posted by: Finisher on June 27, 2022, 9:33 pm

Chev The question I have if you win the min. bet then take your win and bet down will the casino say that it the 1-1-1 bet no longer is good ? 

I will be going to casino tonight and will try this out on the RTW machine with the bonus bet . It is only 1.00 to play it if you have min. bet of 5.00 so can place 3.00 0n 6 and 8 to be able to bet the bonus then take it the 6 and 8 down to see . Good Rolling .

Posted by: Chevy on June 27, 2022, 10:38 pm

In that situation, they say you must have $15 action on the game. Could be hard ways, field, pass, don’t, 4,5,9,10, they don’t seem to care. 

Posted by: Dominator on June 28, 2022, 7:57 pm

Yea, I agree with Chevy, You do need a min bet from my experiance

Posted by: Finisher on June 29, 2022, 4:53 pm

I was hoping to get more response to this post . Also I am looking for when you have made the bet and have a win for it but with no Min. bet on the table since you have taken down all your bets .Since I think the STA bet may be a contract bet it would stay up . Just not sure . 

Hope that some one knows the rule or if it is just up to the casino like many other things that happens .

Posted by: BigCasino on June 29, 2022, 4:58 pm

Speaking of ATS.  I HIT it yesterday at my local casino!  Had a tremendous roll.  Even the dealer said “it’s a roll like this that makes you want to gamble”  They always appreciate how I put up a bet like Dom taught us in class.   Dealers on the LINE.   I rolled for over 40 minutes. So FUN.  When you have a monster like that.   At first it was only me and then one other person joined the table. So the game moved pretty fast.  The way I like it.   

Posted by: Dominator on June 29, 2022, 4:58 pm

I do think it is a contract bet once you put it up

Dom

Posted by: Sandman on June 29, 2022, 7:01 pm

Hi Finisher

Good question.  Here’s my take… Most casinos will require a minimum bet to be in play at the time the STA is made so if you have a Pass Line bet and it wins, and you pull is down, my interpretation is that you have qualified and can leave the STA up there as it will not require another Pass Line bet.  I don’t believe the rule is you must have a minimum bet in play for EVERY roll.

Would be interested in hearing what your local casino says.

Matt / Sandman

Posted by: Finisher on July 2, 2022, 10:51 pm

I would rather not ask since some are getting rid of this bet . 

Good Rolling.

Posted by: Cotton Lob on July 7, 2022, 1:58 pm

EST  &  STA   What are these you are speaking about? I’m a little dense.

Posted by: Finisher on July 7, 2022, 4:57 pm

Cotton Lob I some times need to reread my posts before sending them . I went back to see mistake but could not find EST . Anyway the STA stands for a bonus bet . Small ,Tall ,and ALL . 

My wife gets on me about my bad posts that I do . I think a lot has to do with spell check but then I don’t check .

Good Rolling.

Posted by: Cotton Lob on July 12, 2022, 8:04 pm

@finisher   I understand.

I never think to play the extra bets because they are not available everywhere.  I do like playing the HOPS on RTW.  

My wife was an English major in school so I always get it about speech or whatever. LOL

Posted by: Finisher on July 17, 2022, 5:03 am

I have not tried the hops at all . With a 200 buy in those bets are hard to do along with the bonus bets . I do one dollar on the RTW bonus on others and 2 on my rolls . 

Good Rolling.

Posted by: Cotton Lob on July 19, 2022, 10:41 pm

My bank was never big enough to spread out on all the carnival bets.  I need all the chips available for odds for my PASS LINE and COME BETS. And with three COME BETS working that takes care of chips. If my goal is to roll the COME BET or POINT within three to five rolls,  there’s no time for monkey business.

Posted by: Finisher on July 19, 2022, 11:17 pm

Cotten you got me thinking . If you have a bonus bet working on the RTW machine and it is a come out roll on roll 7 you  will win even if you take down ALL your bets . I like it when the 7 roll is a come out roll also on the 16th .

Were I play the RTW machine they some times let time go by a lot to let players bet more . At times it does bother me . There are a lot of players that bet a lot of different bets and the dealer will not push the button till he sees’ the players are done betting . Which is more time then the machine gives .

Good Rolling.