I would hope that her come bets on the 5,6 and8 are twice that of the field bet . That will make up for when she rolls those numbers and then she will be happy when she hits the field . It looks like a great bet and that is way it takes up so much of the table space .

I always think about what a dealer said one time . HE SAID he would be happy if he could win 2.00 on every roll . I would bet that she would be happy to win the money it takes to replace that field bet on every roll and then some . 

The first thing my wife asks me is if I am betting the hard ways or the crap numbers . When the dealers see her coming they let me know so I can at least bet the hard ways for a dollar . If I am playing the RTW machine she will put a dollar on the horn bet . 

Good Rolling.

We wish we had an easy answer to your question.  Reminds me of many years ago when I was attending an insurance convention held at a casino.  A couple of guys throught they were playing really smart by betting the following:

1. A field bet which we know covers the 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11 and 12.

2. At the same time they would place the 6, 8, and 9 for the same amount. 

This would cover all the numbers on the table but the dreaded 7. 

Their thinking was that they would have a “pay day” regardless of what number was rolled on each and every roll of the dice–with the exception of the 7.   Their thinking was that since if a 7 was not rolled they they were making a little something on every roll of the dice.  How stupid is this.  We simply walked away. 

As the saying goes you can take a horse to the water but you can’t make him drink. 

Only one way to play craps–THE GTC WAY. 

Rose and Doc

That betting strategy is called “The Iron Cross.”  This will end up being very expensive, very quickly. Sure, a person betting this way MAY see some pay days but, long term, will lose based on the house edge on the bets. No matter what people do, Come betting has the lowest house edge and is the best way to protect your bankroll!

@finisher As a recovering END SHOOTER I feel her misguided direction in Field Betting is only brought on by misguided devils work and not understanding the powers of knowing the dice trends in the individual shooters at the table.

If she learns to chronicle what shooters roll and if they are rolling with setting the dice, she may spot a shooter who only shoots Craps and field numbers.

Are they just flinging the dice? Are they setting them and delivering a thoughtful throw?

The COME Bet is taught here and is best used on thoughtful shooters rolling BOX numbers.

On my recent Las Vegas trip I walked up to the table and rolled six numbers in a row. They included three Points being established and three points being rolled to win.  

Thats three COME Bets in less than ten minutes.

There was only one other guy at the other end of the table. He took his winnings and walked away after I made the third point.

I should have too but stayed on wanting “more fun”. Of course my first round at the table is always my best. The longer I stay can not always be good.

I never try to roll Sevens or Craps on the come out. 

I think of it like this. If I am rolling Craps numbers, it’s no different than rolling Sevens.

This means there is something wrong with my grip, wrist, whatever. I adjust those and see better numbers.

Cotton Lob,  well said

The only think I can think of if she would is to track either by taking a portion of the buy in for just the field play and track for a few sessions her win/lose. Maybe that would convince her

Dom

Cotten Lab I posted some years back about a session I tried come betting only on a roll at a casino . It was a long roll and even the DC players were vary happy . When the wife came to get me the whole table frowned and all said so . The place betters and the Don’t players . I needed up winning ONE come bet .All together I had like 17 come bets going during that roll . The only goog part was I made lots of points .

Things happen just like your 6 in a row but do not happen all the time . 

 Like Dom says have her track her rolls and see what happens . I will say that IF she gets 6 in a row that will prove her point like your 6 in a row . lol 

The advantage of the come bet is the next roll after that it is the same as any number . I have said for a long time that win I get to were I throw repeaters I will become a come better . I do make come bets but I am not just a come better for now .

On a other side I had a session that I rolled 3 times and a guy was betting across . He would take down the hit  every time . When I 7nd out he had no money in play . This happened on all 3 of the rolls I was on just the 6 and 8 so made a little but he made 15 during  that session . I lost my place bets . All 3 and left . No repeat bets at ALL during those rolls . I did throw every box number . I still throw box numbers but not repeaters like you yet .

Good Rolling.

Actually the advantage of the come bet is the first roll after you put it up because of the 7/11.

How did yo have 17 come bets going when there are only 6 numbers on the table?

Dom

Posted by: @dr-crapology

We wish we had an easy answer to your question.  Reminds me of many years ago when I was attending an insurance convention held at a casino.  A couple of guys throught they were playing really smart by betting the following:

1. A field bet which we know covers the 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11 and 12.

2. At the same time they would place the 6, 8, and 9 for the same amount. 

This would cover all the numbers on the table but the dreaded 7. 

Their thinking was that they would have a “pay day” regardless of what number was rolled on each and every roll of the dice–with the exception of the 7.   Their thinking was that since if a 7 was not rolled they they were making a little something on every roll of the dice.  How stupid is this.  We simply walked away. 

As the saying goes you can take a horse to the water but you can’t make him drink. 

Only one way to play craps–THE GTC WAY. 

Rose and Doc

Doc Mis-spoke on the 5 being in the field. But we all know that.

I have a confession to make. I have been playing a  mad science game called “Roll to Win” these past six months in Connecticut,  and New Hampshire at the old dog track by the ocean. 

I found myself playing the the “Horn and Field” on some shooters. This NH table has double anti slide across from wall to wall. 

I even play the Hops too hopping the seven.

These shooters know nothing about Craps. Its a card joint. 

There are usually ten players on the weekend. In Ct. there are stools to sit at so people camp out. I only play the felt in Ct. now.

It is a fun crowd with fun dealers in NH.

I only stay for two rounds in NH.  I prefer to visit during the week heading home from Boston when the table is empty.  My wife usually rolls twenty. Me usually fifteen  to thirty but usually no more than fifteen. Sometimes 3 rolls. LOL

Last week I was trying something and rolled a hard 6, then a hard 8, the a seven. It was too crowded so I was ready to head home rather wait for another round.

Max bets overall is $200.

The people  who want to have fun like playing the Slots like games like this with the low $2 and $5 min. bets.

You can tell I don’t use the field bet since I left out that if the 5 is rolled you lose.  Good to have someone (besides Rose) to keep me on the straight and narrow.  

Doc

Dom we are both getting to forget a little but I said I had like 17 come bets during the roll . I think I made like 4 to 7 point wins . I did win one come bet before my roll ended . It was some time ago but you could look it up . But it kind of went like this . After first point win 7 on come out to loose 2 come bets . Next point win loose 3 come bets then 3 more come bets . The DP player talks to me that I am having a great roll . Then the next point win I loose 2 come bets . I think you get the idea by now . I did start to bet on the 7 on come outs but that did not work since I bet to little till the dealers told me how much I needed to keep my come bets up .That is how I won on that one come bet .

It was still a good roll since I did win those pass line bets and the come out wins . I believe in come betting only when you are good enough to make repeater numbers . When I do have come bets winning I will increase my odds on every win . Since I am a low roller I start off with min . odds . Even on my pass line bets . If I do get into a long roll I will be max out on odds . Doing it with wins .

Good Rolling.

Cotten You need to have more placed then on the field to have this system work also no 7s rolling . So when the 5,6 or 8 roll you need to be able to have money to put back the field and still have a little win . Then when you do win on the 2 or 12 take half to place a 4,9 or 10 as to have a double win IF one of them roll . This only works on LONG rolls with no 7s . No system works .

The math is the casinos guide.

Good Rolling. 

One last thought on the game “Roll to Win”. It is unpredictable. I have lost money on the game and walked to the carpet table and won my money back.

Bad habits are bad habits.

Stick to the real Craps game and forget the nonsense. 

On a RTW machine a come player has to work harder . 

On a real table it is easy for a come player . 

At one casino I use to play at and liked I stopped playing there when they changed to a high table . I could not reach my come bet wins . Also hard to throw since I am only 5 ft. 3 now . It seems the older I get the shorter I get .

The thing about the RTW machine is you and I do not practice to throw on it I would say . Those bumpers can kill your throw .

Good Rolling.

It’d be interesting to see what she can turn $100 in a separate rail only for Field.  She has to bet from it and the wins go in.  See what the net is if there’s even anything left a the end of the session.  I remember when Dom had one of my fellow Primers back in ’14 take $10 for her HW bets and it was gone in no time!!!

About 3 years ago (4?), RollTide4Ever decided she would start joining me at the Craps table. I started giving quasi-professional training to both her and my youngest son, the last of my five sons living nearby. I have all the equipment, including the Gripper. The plan was to make them well prepared to make the most out of their first Golden Touch Craps (GTC)class. Then ensued my surgeries and Covid and more surgery, preventing travel. But we kept up the learning/practice sessions. They learned the correct grip, position, swing, 5-count, Come Bets – the full package. We also reviewed the DVDs, to reinforce it all. So, even though she struggles with Odds versus Place Bet payouts, RollTide4Ever knows about House Advantage.

When she throws out a Field Bet, she already has a Passline Bet and 1 or 2 Come Bets with Odds. My assessment is that since our proven anti-gambling way to bet requires discipline, our reward can take time. She gets drawn into taking a gamble.

When I started six years (7?) to play Craps regularly, I did a lot of research and expensive experimentation. When I made it to GTC, I was past ready to leave gambling behind. RollTide4Ever has only known GTC. Perhaps, I should insist she have a continual minimum Field Bet (not the $25 to $50 she’s throws out now, when she gets the urge). Perhaps, that way, she’ll get her fill. Here’s hoping.

This is a game that you just never know what will happen . Then just when you think you have seen it ALL . A new thing comes up .

I was at the RTW machine and at SR1 after my roll it went to SL1 WERE a lady started to roll . She rolled the dice to the left just like I did . It was a good roll but I told the dealer that the roller should roll the dice in the other direction . She told me that her training was that both dice had to hit the back wall . Nothing about anything else . 

So we learn every day at times when we think that we have seen it ALL.  In one session at the RTW machine I had the dice given to me 3 times by players that did not want to roll or left . They were all 3 in rolls that were longer then 5 . I said to the dealer on one of those rolls some one just looking will think I am having a good roll after starting on roll 21 . We laughed and I think I ended  the roll at 29  with one guy saying a good roll even that it was only 6 rolls that I did which he did not know what happened . 

I know a lady that says she makes money on the field bet . I asked her how she does it . She waits for non field numbers 5 times then bets it . WIN takes and waits for it not to roll for 5 more times if one comes in she just waits again . What a GRIND . She says she plays for HOURS that way with little looses . 

Good Rolling.

@finisher The older you are the shorter you get, I thought that too. But recently I had an Insurance Physical, 43 years ago Our great uncle Sam listed me at 6′ even, this physical put me at 6’1″ so for all intents I’ve gained 1″ over these last years. 

Most of my friends seem to be getting taller and taller  also .

Good Rolling.

Question is how do you break the habit of making a field bet.  It is really very simple don’t ever put any chips in the field bet area. DUH!!!  Save those chips to make the lowest house edge bet which are pass line/come gets with odds to get the house as low as possible but never too much IN ODDS if you don’t have the bankroll to sustain your game.  In Texas we call it the KISS theory—KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. 

@dr-crapology Don’t get sucked in & drink the casinos kool-Aid with those bets. 

                      A few months ago I seen a player place those bets very heavy. He went up about $6,000.00+ only to keep playing losing it all with the same betting strategy. He left broke.

We (Rose and I) never make a field bet and haven’t in many years–too many to count.  Like we said–not a hard habit to break, just note make the field bet EVER!!!