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Connecticut Class June 2021 taken by wife a very enjoyable learning experience.

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I was asked to post a big THANK YOU to all the instructors from my wife. You did a good job putting the instructor team together Dom. I asked her how the new instructors were and she had nothing but positive comments. She loved all the various tips given at the different stations. I booked the room in the same building as the class in case she needed to escape. Nope.  Not happening. She also enjoyed all the students. Golden Touch attracts good people. Thanks to Darryl, Dr Crapology and Alligator Rose for contributing to the success of the class. And of course all the instructors. The two of us will be able to participate together in future tune-ups together. Since she didn’t come up with a name we will refer to her as “her” for now.


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Posted by: Dominator on June 30, 2021, 1:19 pm

Love it! I do believe that “her” will become as good a shooter as you!

 

Dom

Posted by: Dr Crapology on June 30, 2021, 1:56 pm

Thank you for the nice words as all the instructors work as hard as possible to make all students  successful.  Just make sure you follow both the techniques of the throw as well as the come betting that Dom talks about in class.  

May we suggest that your beautiful bride use as her handle “Mrs. Lob.”  Might be a fun handle.

 

Rose and Doc

 

Posted by: Cotton Lob on July 3, 2021, 1:19 am

What a transformation here in the northeast. Mrs. is practicing every day.

She rolled 17 tonight. She has the good book open while I throw. Who would have thought.  LOL

Posted by: Dr Crapology on July 3, 2021, 11:11 am

She was an excellent student–like her husband.  A real pleasure to to have as a student.  Both of you will keep up the good work as you progress forward.  Look forward to seeing you in the future.  

Rose and Doc

Posted by: BucksterK on July 6, 2021, 5:14 pm

Cotton Lob:
As another Husband & Wife team who learned at the feet of the GTC Masters, I can assure you the lessons are 100% valid and invaluable.  We play as a team but in a special way.  When one of us is shooting, the other does all the betting.  This permits the shooter to focus 100% on the dice while the other handles all the chips.  It has worked very well for us over the past 10 years.  Oh, one other thing…the dealers will remember you both so toke them well.  That’s money well spent.

Posted by: Cotton Lob on July 7, 2021, 1:20 am

@bucksterk  It is a good idea. The best thing about the game is the many ways in which to play it. It is impossible to become bored with the game.  

Players who bet all the Box and every other bet would really need someone to handle all the bets just to make sure you are paid correctly. My brain is not spinning numbers like those “numbers guys” rattle off without effort. Your team practice will be perfect for handling large banks. 

I have usually played no more than four Come Bets at a time along with the Hard Ways and the Point. 

NOTE: The casinos are cracking down on Advantage shooters with not betting on other shooters. I read players are required to bet on (every other) shooter down in the gulf.

The casinos have challenged me this year on skipping shooters and not having action. 

I am thinking that we will have to start looking at the Don’t Come Bets or something or do what I do now and place Come Bets on every shooter.

Number One reason why an empty table is best. 

I wonder how that would affect your team betting system. @bucksterk

 

Posted by: Dice Star on July 7, 2021, 1:20 pm

@dominator thanks again for the great training weekend with all of the instructors and students. I honestly got great tips from each of them. I rolled 27 rolls the others day! I thought of a handle name. Dice Star! Yep, that’s me….or soon to be. I’ll change my name in the settings.  Off to practice!

Posted by: Dominator on July 7, 2021, 3:42 pm

Posted by: @cotton-lob

NOTE: The casinos are cracking down on Advantage shooters with not betting on other shooters. I read players are required to bet on (every other) shooter down in the gulf.

The casinos have challenged me this year on skipping shooters and not having action. 

I am thinking that we will have to start looking at the Don’t Come Bets or something or do what I do now and place Come Bets on every shooter.

Number One reason why an empty table is best. 

I wonder how that would affect your team betting system. @bucksterk

 

First there isn’t any difference between playing the do or the don’t with House edge …. -1.4 on the don’t and -1.41 on the do. Next do not get into this way of playing,…. betting on every shooter. You have to come up with a line or two.

This actually happened to me in CT over this past weekend . I was grandfathered in at a table and I was and will ALWAYS use the 5-count on everyone. The suit came up to me and said that she couldn’t keep me grandfathered in if I didn’t bet on every shooter. My response was simple, I said, “I do bet on every shooter that makes it past a few rolls. I just want a couple of rolls before I bet.” She said OK then – no problem

I have also said things like “The way this table is running I wouldn’t bet on these shooters with your money. (I then laugh)

You have to come up with things. Forcing you to bet from the get go will lose you money!

Dom

Posted by: BucksterK on July 7, 2021, 4:01 pm

To piggyback on Dom’s comments, we have been instructed to bet on everyone.  We also do the 5-count.  I’ve had fairly good success by simply saying to the banker/pit boss, “I’ll bet when the point is set.”  It’s fairly common now to be instructed to play the pass/don’t pass if you have money on the prop bets (ATS & Fire).  That’s an easy one to handle.  I just don’t play the props except on ourselves.  In those cases, the Shooter plays those mandatory bets so that quells the drama.  I find that a pleasant demeanor and toking usually makes for a better experience.

Posted by: Finisher on July 7, 2021, 7:28 pm

I have no problem were I play about not betting on every player . But I thought that you could do this place a passline bet with an added dollar on top and bet the same on the DP except with out the dollar then put one dollar on side for dealers . If you loose you the bet you loose 2 dollars .If you win you give the dealers 2 dollars and break even . They win and if they have a problem with that I would not want to play there . Now when you roll I would not do that .

Good Rolling.

Posted by: Dominator on July 8, 2021, 4:51 pm

Except on the 12 finisher – then you don’t push that bet

Dom

Posted by: Finisher on July 8, 2021, 10:26 pm

If you are afraid of the 12 then you should not be playing . It does come up but it has to be on a come out roll . You can ask Skinny how often that happens . I would guess that you have had many rolls were you did not see a 12 on a come out roll . 

I bet on the player before me just in case of the rule that some casinos have . But as far as every player I try to pass on most . Or just one bet . May be a come bet or just one box number . 6 or 8 .

Just say you need to use the rest room and get a towel . The pills are working . I cant  hold it like I use to . Or just make them think you are hard of hearing . What did you say . Bet on who ? What can I bet on ? 

But just be nice what ever you do since it is their GAME .

Good Rolling.

Posted by: Dominator on July 8, 2021, 11:26 pm

I didn’t mean to be afraid of the 12, what I meant is that you will not always push on playing the pass and the don’t at the same time. Just wanted to make that clear for everyone.

If you must bet on the person next to you, my suggestion is to let them establish a point and then put out a come bet hoping they go point 7 out.

Dom

Posted by: Finisher on July 9, 2021, 4:33 am

That has worked a few times more then I want to count . I have no set rules that I use on other players any more . I just bet the way I feel at the time . In the past I had some rules to go by but they did not work out so good . I just hope to see a great roll that I can get 2 come bets on with full odds . 

I guess we all have to remember that it is THEIR game . The bad thing is some make up the rules as you are playing .

Good Rolling. 

Posted by: Cotton Lob on July 9, 2021, 4:28 pm

You all make good points.  If you put in enough practice time and keep good notes on what works and doesn’t work, fear will not be a factor. 

If I am not seeing my numbers in the Casino as seen at the house something is wrong.

 

Posted by: Dominator on July 10, 2021, 2:51 pm

“Her” :)) – will make a great shooter!

Thank her for the kind words! My instructors are the best!

Dom