I have been following all of the casino scenarios thus far. It seems that the general consensus can possibly be, one less dealer, only six players and the tables will be $25.00.

High Arc

From what I’m hearing, SL1 and SL2 would be left open to distance from Stick.  If so, I’d expect both hook positions more in the straight out area to distance from base dealer.

I could see everyone implementing the no box position to save over 25% of labor on a table.

Yesterday, Angel of The Winds Casino reopened.  The new procedure is once you get to the casino, you are to text a number to the casino and they will answer you back with a welcome.  They will then ask how many people are in your party and once that is known, they will send you final text inviting you to come into the casino.  When you get into line to go into the casino, they take your temperature, check your ID and make sure that you are wearing a mask.  Once that is finished, you are welcomed into the casino.  The only problem with this is they failed to mention that only the slots machines were in play along with the only board game:  Baccarat.  They have not opened the craps tables or the blackjack tables.

What was more frustrating was that I had to wait in my car for 2 hours before being allowed into the casino only to find out that the game that I play, was closed for the night.  In summary, I waited for 2 hours to get into the casino and stayed there for all of 10 minutes.  Moral to this story, when the casinos reopen, call and find out if your game will be available to play.

Thank you for the update Judge!

Dom

My craps career is over. I will not wait in line to enter a casino or be forced to wear a mask or gloves. 

This is not the new normal. The social distance rules will end, certainly once there is a vaccine for COVID-19, perhaps sooner. Common sense fails to end social distancing in a state, there are these pesky protected liberties that will intervene: right of assembly and freedom of religion. In this country, the government can restrict our liberty only when there is a compelling interest. Now that our medical services are well equipped to treat the COVID-19 sick, I would argue the general welfare of the people has been protected and the government no longer has a compelling interest to restrict our daily lives. I believe President Trump agrees.

The notion of a vaccine may not be the panacea for 2 reasons:

(1) According to some virologists, the manner in which COVID-19 interacts with the immune system is not understood – not too different than HIV or the common cold.  After 50 years of research for a cold vaccine and 20 years research for an HIV vaccine, there has been no success.

(2) Historically, only about 45% of people take the flu vaccine and it typically is only 45% to 85% effective for those who have been vaccinated.  If that trend would apply to the ‘rona, then that leaves 60% to 80% unprotected.  Not very effective even when a vaccine exists.  That is why America has typically between 12,000 to 61,000 deaths each year from the seasonal flu – which has a vaccine readily available.

Attached is a photo of the craps table at Buffalo Run Oklahoma, taken yesterday. The picture was taken by the fellow craps player at SR1, when he stepped back from the table. So, one player can be at SR1/SR2.

You are making the Preacher’s point for him. 

We don’t shelter in place or social distance for the flu, HIV or common cold. Yet we know the flu causes death in the tens of thousands annually. HIV was a death sentence until recently. There are deaths from the common cold for those with certain conditions. 

We don’t take extreme precautions from them because our medical community can handle those infected. The same will be true for COVID-19 if we are not there already. 

Hence it will become another normal risk of life like so many other risks. It will be up to us to protect ourselves as we see fit. The government has no right to place demands on our liberties once the compellingly reason has passed. 

They may or may not be able to develop an effective vaccine. But I’m fairly certain we will have therapeutic and possibly prophylactic drugs pretty soon. At that point this should not be much different than other risks. Most especially for those not in the high risk category for death. 

Here is the CDC’s recommendation for the flu:

Just saying that I totally agree with Preacher’s and Skinny’s views. It is something I have said since the beginning of this stupid, IMHO, shut down.

Dom

Agreed to the max!  Let me out!!!  (well, I did go down to NC for 2 weeks to work on things at my cabin).

FYI on one casino that someone went to yesterday.  This one in western, NC, which I haven’t been to yet but will likely in June, opened by invitation only, went to play craps.  This one only allowed 2 people per side, S2 and straight out on each side.  Table minimums were the same per this person.  Masks were required, but the casino was smoke free.  Interesting mix of protocols now that it’s going live!

My attitude about the “new normal” is changing.

I went to the two casinos in my area (CT) and one craps is unplayable but the other shining casino is getting better to me.

FIrst on the negative side, I really hate having to wear a mask, hot and uncomfortable.  But, you can remove the mask to drink.  SO I get drinks and tip very well and let the server know to keep them coming.

SEcond on the negative is if you go during peak times it may take an hour+ to get on a table.  I was hoping they would use some type of system, like poker, where you can put your name in for the next opening.  Last night (Friday) it was whoever was lucky enough to be wandering past someone who was leaving.

On the brighter side there are some advantages to the new normal.

First advantage is you don’t have to deal with people pushing in and crowding you while you throw.  the crew makes sure players and nonplayers are not crowding the tables.

Second advantage is there are only 6 players at the table.  Last night two players where not throwing the dice.  So the dice came back around fairly quickly.  Although the table limits where higher than I normally play ($25), I did not lose as much on the random shooters.

Third is since there are only three players at the opposite end there are not as many chips in the way.  There is always a nice clean area to land in.

I have been practicing on the throwing station in my house, but not the same as the casino.  It was the second time I have been out since the world shut down.  All in all if this is the new normal, I may be able to live with it.

Good rolling

Looking for some advice from the Masters.

With the new normal I am throwing from further back.  Two questions about the added distance.

1.  Other than a little longer back swing, is there any other adjustments to the grip or throw I should make?

2.  What it the best way to lower the arc.  With the longer throw does it require a lower arc?

Thanks

@cliffm1 it depends on the table. It’s not just the arc but also your target area. Study the action of the dice as others throw to determine where your first LZ should be. Otherwise start with your standard toss with a little more backswing as you said. For lower trajectory, start your dice a couple of inches back… small adjustments and smaller bets until you find it. 

Posted by: @cliffm1

Looking for some advice from the Masters.

With the new normal I am throwing from further back.  Two questions about the added distance.

1.  Other than a little longer back swing, is there any other adjustments to the grip or throw I should make?

2.  What it the best way to lower the arc.  With the longer throw does it require a lower arc?

 

Thanks

 

answer to 1 is no

Answer to 2 – best way to lower the arc if you want to lower the arc is to practice throwing it lower. But the lowering the arc is dependent on the bounce not because you are throwing the nice longer.

Dom

I do not have a table yet.  Using throwing station.  I am throwing from 9 feet.

I was using 7 1/2 to 8 feet for SL1, would you recommend longer than 9 ft to practice?

No, not really, but what I advise everyone to do is when you go to the casino that you play at, go to an empty table and eye ball your heel against the back wall and step off heel to toe the distance. Then go home and put that distance to your practice table

Dom

Dom

Thanks for the info.  Will step it off this week.

What Dom says will work.  Here are some alternative measurements that we use to determine how far apart to place the throwing station from the receiving station.  

A 12 foot table is 144 inches.   Doc is great with math  🙂  The center of the table (the middle of the prop bets in the middle of a craps table will be 72 inches.  We allow about 18 inches for the stick man (he is often a big one)so the shoulder of our throwing arm should be approximately 90 inches from the back wall of the throwing station.  

In the casino we can usually “eye ball” a table to determine if it is a 12 or 14 footer.  However, you can’t take a tape measure and measure the table (duh) so like Dom,we walk the side of the table.  Doc’s stride is right at 3 feet so he casually walks the length of the table and 4 steps will give us the length of a 12 footer.  If we are not quite to the end of the table with 3 steps we know it is a 14 footer.  Try not to stand out as you walk the table, but casually look like you are walking through the casino.

Hope this helps.

Rose and Doc

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