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3 questions, tips, crapless craps, tunica

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1. when tipping dealers by putting a $1 on the pass line, should you back it up with another $1 for odds, or not, and do you do this everytime you have a come out roll?

2. while in vegas saw crapless craps table, 2 of them , any feed back on if you like to play or not, if you like or not,or recommend to play, any thoughts at all?

3. headed to tunica in a couple weeks, any casinos you recommend best to play at?

thanks for any and all help. Much success to you all.


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Posted by: Dr Crapology on October 15, 2019, 11:29 am

As to tips there are many ideas as to how to tip the dealers. Here is what Doc does. It is a little different from what others do but it is easy and it works for me. When I am rolling or a known GTC player has the dice and I am on the pass line, I put $1 on top of my pass line bet. I tell the dealer that I will pay him/her the $1 won and will again bet the original $1 for the dealer. Once the point is established, here is how I handle odds for the dealer:

1. If the point is a 4 or 10–I put $1 on top of my odds bet (it pays 2 to 1). If it wins the dealer wins the $1 on on the pass line and $2 on the odds bet. Total I push out to him is $3.
2. if the point is a 5 or 9–I put $2 on top of my odds bet (it pays 3 to 2). If it wins the dealer wins the $1 on the pass line and $3 on the odds bet. Total I push out to him is $4.
3. If the point is a 6 or 8–I put out an extra $5 on top of my odds bet (it pays 6 to 5). When I make my point I pay the dealer the $1 won on the pass line bet and the $1 of the extra $6 odds bet, keeping the $5. Dealer win $2.

If I get into a really good roll and have rolled maybe 25 times without a 7, I may place $6 on the 6 and 8, telling the dealer I control the bet and if the 6 or 8 is made I will pay him the winning $7 and re-bet the $6. Should a 6 or 8 be make 3 times I will tell the dealer to take $1 of the win and will press that number to $12. From that point forward I have the dealer continue to press the 6 or 8 hit "one unit " or $6 with the dealer winning the balance of the win.

There are other variations of tipping the dealer. I hope others will share their ideas. Just pick one that is simple to use.

As to crapless craps, I will usually pass on that game. I do not know the exact percentages, but I do know that the house edge is considerably higher. Others on the GTC web site like this game so will let them give their opinion.

I will address your 3rd question in a PM (private message to you). We recommend that no one discuss particular casinos on this web site.

Rose and doc

Posted by: brothelman on October 15, 2019, 4:51 pm

Whenever I’m in the game I have a pass like that with odds if I collect it I throw the dealers two bucks. I never just place a bet for them because I want to control everything that’s going on in the game I want to do what I want to do I want no distractions I want nobody telling me anything I want to make all my own choices it’s my destiny. I love the Crapless game the house edge on the 2 3 11 and 12 is ridiculously low ridiculously.

Posted by: MarkV on October 16, 2019, 12:19 am

Thanks to both of you for the great information. sorry Doc about asking about a casino did not know, will not do again

Posted by: Finisher on October 16, 2019, 9:30 am

about tipping .I bet one 1.00 on the side of my pass line bet if I am rolling ,some times it depends on dealers tho . I then add one with every win I get from place bets that I have made . But I have started to do more come betting so this way may change . I like this way for less comes out of my rack then to start off with odds for them . It also helps to keep track of wins that you have .
Some times I start off with only one times odds till the dealer bet gets to full odds then up my odds instead of adding to dealer bet . Your BR will determine that .It will be up to you tho .As you will find there are lots of different ways .
O yes I do start with one more on my bet to replace the dealer win if that happens . So I start off with 2 out of my rack for the dealers and that ends there . The rest of odds for dealers will come from wins only and not taken from rack . When a pass line win comes the replacement comes from win also not out of rack .
I hope this helps .
Good Rolling.

Posted by: Finisher on October 16, 2019, 9:31 am

about tipping .I bet about the same as Preacher except for adding odds as wins come in .
I hope this helps .
Good Rolling.

Posted by: Preacher on October 16, 2019, 5:23 pm

I keep my dealer bet very simple and consistent, requiring no thought on my part or the dealers. When I buy in, I always ask for a stack of singles. On my pass line bet, I add a single on top, and I put a dealer bet of $1 2” to the right of my pass line bet. Nothing needs to be said. The dealers automatically know the single to the right of my pass line bet is theirs. When I make a point, the dealer pays my pass line bet ($11 on a $10 minimum table), then puts $1 next to the dealer pass line bet. I push the $2 (my $1 dealer bet and the $1 win) toward the dealer. After the dealer pays everyone’s wins, the dealer then collects my dealer bets and, usually, thanks me for the tip. I take the $1 from my pass line win and put it next to my pass line bet. So, my dealer tip costs me $1 total, and only at the beginning of my roll. The dealers get a $2 dollar tip from me every time I hit my point, and it costs me nothing.

When I color up, if my winnings are double or higher than my buy in, I’ll give a 1% tip or $25, whichever is higher.

As to crapless, that is my preferred table, if it is 12’. After the come out roll, if I’m throwing or a GTC player has the dice, I buy the 2 and 12 for $25 each, pushing the House vig for 1$ each. Then I use my standard betting method: pass line bet starting at 3 times odds, and 2 come bets with 3 times odds. Of course, if I’m not throwing, I use the 5 count, except that I have the 2 Buy bets, one on 2 and one on 12.

When I win on 2 or 12, the wonderful 6x payout ($150) covers all my working bets and more. Of course, my Buy bet converts to a Come Bet. For wins on numbers 4 to 10, I always press with half my win. For wins on 2 or 12, I double the bet, and keep the rest of my win.

Many crapless tables are 14’, which I avoid. But a 12’ crapless table? I’m all over it.

Posted by: Finisher on October 16, 2019, 7:45 pm

I have not played much on the crapless table . It seems like I may try it out after looking at what Preacher said tho .Just need to find that 12 ft. table .
Good Rolling. 😀 🙂