Encore just wants a high end clientele. $25 keeps the "riff raff" out.

The message delivered was clear with the table limit and price of food. They will probably relax the the table limit after the storm clears.

Little Debbie I have sean the RIFF Raff bet alot higher then I do at times . But they just may have looked like riff raff and I was fooled . 😀 🙂
You just never know these days .
Good Rolling. 😀 🙂

One advantage to lower table limits is the ability to have a lower house advantage for the same spread (amount of money bet on the table at risk). For example, on a pass line or come bet (which you should be doing), on a $25 table with 1x free odds of $25, the player has $50 at risk with a house advantage of 0.85%. On a $10 limit table for the same spread of $50, a player will have 4x free odds of $40 for a house advantage of 0.37%. This is a reduction in house advantage of nearly 0.5% for the lower limit table with the same amount at risk. Another way of showing the advantage is to look at the payoff for a win. For a point 6 or 8, a win pays $55 on the $25 table whereas on the $10 table the payout is $58 – $3 better on the $10 table for the same $50 at risk. The payoff for a win on points 5 and 9 is $62.50 vs $70 – $7.50 better for the $10 table. The payoff for a win on points 4 and 10 is $75 vs $90 – $15 better for the $10 table. To summarize, a player will win more or lose less on a lower limit table for the same spread.

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Here is when I am at a loss .I assumed that when you play at a 25.00 table if you bet the 4 or 10 you would give the vig to make more on win . Not like stated 75 verses 90 . AM i missing some thing here ? I have never played on a 25.00 table . So do you need to bet 30.00 on the 6 and 8 with 25.00 being ok for the rest ? What is the odds for pass line on other numbers ? The BR for this type of play must be HIGH . I am not a math guy but it seems that you would need a BIG one to play if you went by GTC rules .
Good Rolling. 😀 🙂

Finisher wrote:
"Here is when I am at a loss .I assumed that when you play at a 25.00 table if you bet the 4 or 10 you would give the vig to make more on win . Not like stated 75 verses 90 . AM i missing some thing here ? I have never played on a 25.00 table . So do you need to bet 30.00 on the 6 and 8 with 25.00 being ok for the rest ? What is the odds for pass line on other numbers ? The BR for this type of play must be HIGH . I am not a math guy but it seems that you would need a BIG one to play if you went by GTC rules ."

GTC advocates pass line and come bets, therefore this example was for pass line and come bets – not placing or buying box numbers. Therefore, there is no vig. The free odds are what goes behind the pass line or on top of the come bet – this is paid at true odds, that is 6:5, 3:2 and 2:1 for 6/8, 5/9 and 4/10 respectively. The advantage on the low minimum table is that more of the bet is on free odds that pays at true odds unlike the flat bet on the pass line that pays only even money 1:1.

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So you are assuming that the odds on the 25.00 bet is not going to be the same as the lower bet . I am not the math guy but would like to compare apples to apples as the saying goes .That said it is even better to play on 5.00 table with the most odds you can get or find .
Are the free odds the same on the 10.00 table and the 25.00 table or are they different ?
I should have read the post better .
I try to play on 5.00 tables and avoid the 10.00 tables if I can .Since it is to easy to get in a hole .
Good Rolling. 😀 🙂

Let’s see if I can make this simple. The House Advantage on a pass/come bet for a random roller is 1.41% of the base line bet. This amounts to approximately 7 cents for a $5 line bet.

Thus for a $5 line bet a random roller can expect to lose 7 cents, $10 line bet loses 14 cents and $25 line bet loses 35 cents.

There is no HA on the odds so it is to your advantage to take as much in odds as possible while risking the least necessary on the line wager to accommodate the odds one’s BR allows.

But let me get back to the original question.

"High Arc" wrote: Why would I want to play at the $25.00 table ? What are the advantages/disadvantages.

High Arc

If there are lower limit tables available most people will play at those tables. The $25 table tends to be less crowded. You will not have to wait as long to get the dice back if you play at the higher limit table. But this only makes sense if your BR can afford the higher limit and you feel comfortable playing at higher stakes.

You are risking more money on the base bet at the higher limit table. But if you can afford it and are comfortable taking max or close to max odds at the higher limit table you are better off on a less crowded table.

Thanks for the replies. They were very helpful especially the well thought out math breakdown.

High Arc

My last trip to Vegas I went across the street to see if I could meet up with some one and found that table limits were lower and with the card tables they had at least 2 or 3 times more with most full .It surprised me . I did not realise that the last time I was there . I went over there with a friend that plays BJ .
Good Rolling . 😀 🙂

I’m with Skinny.,… I play the $25 table for MY rolls or those of my skilled friends. If it’s crowded, I won’t necessarily play it because I’m expected to bet on most shooters. It’s a balancing act, but I love a $25 table with me plus 1-3 others max.

I did notice that on ship there were players on the 25.00 table that did not roll. One player even said that if he rolled the dice he would loose to much .
Good Rolling.

Finisher, I noticed that too, and on a ship, since captive and repeating audience, you get to know the players pretty quickly!

An empty $25 is a welcome friend! I will usually go up to the dealers and say "oh it must be a cold table, huh?" To which they shake there heads yes. I ask if they mind if I shoot from the the Don’t? My personal best is 13 Don’t passes in a row. The dealers were amazed about how "cold" the was! Once I eventually hit the point, I say oh looks like the table is turning and color up and leave. Shooting from the Don’t is the best mathematical position a controlled shooter can be in, and as long as the table stays empty you get the dice right back again. My 13 DP’s took less than 10 minutes before the rubberneckers started to get in on the game.

Sincerely,
Lou

Were all the rolls point 7 out ?
Good Rolling . 😀 🙂