Not sure where to put this. Hope this qualifies as "other game" and I hope a lot of people on this forum read this sub topic as I know I will get good advice here.
I have never owned good or silver except through funds that trade these metals. Now I physically want to own some. If any of you have ever owned metals or own them now I hope you won’t mind my rookie questions.
(1) any sellers you recommend using or any to stay away from?
(2) how did you receive the metals? Delivery? How was secure delivery made?
(3)anyone use a service that stores the metals for you? Suggestions on companies?
(4) did you buy coins? Bars? Other?
(5) anywhere that is reputable to buy gold over the counter in Las Vegas or Phoenix?
Well, this is at least a start for my questions! 🙂 Thanks in advance if you have any info you can share with me on this topic.
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Posted by: Stephen C on July 5, 2017, 3:02 am
(1) any sellers you recommend using or any to stay away from?
I tend to stay away from those that advertise to the masses on TV. I’ve found their prices are not in line with the smaller houses. Metals are bought and sold on the spot price at the time you place the order. And spot changes depending on the house anywhere to every five minutes to instantly as the market changes. I trade more and more with these two. 1 http://www.gainesvillecoins.com/ and 2 https://www.providentmetals.com/.
(2) how did you receive the metals? Delivery? How was secure delivery made?
Again depends on the quantity. Since i usually deal in small amounts, never more that 1 once of Gold or the equivalent dollar amount in silver, my orders come registered mail, signature required. Never had an issue.
(3)anyone use a service that stores the metals for you? Suggestions on companies?
What is your plan for the metal, investment, SHTF stash, just to have around, a combination of the afore mentioned…………..If your going to actively deal much like stocks or commodities you want it in the possession of a firm that deals that way. You take possession of it then selling is much, much harder. It has to be assayed for purity and weight before they will quote you a price. In the firms hands the sale is usually instantaneous.
I take possession knowing full well that should I ever want to sell it there will be a lag on the offered price. I either mail it off or drag it to a metal dealer here locally. So kind of a SHTF and hedge fund thing I have going. And I’m a bit distrustful, how do I know that they really have the metal there in their vault and not just some certificate of ownership with my hard stuff scattered all over the known universe. Nope, in my safe is good.
(4) did you buy coins? Bars? Other?
Coins or some form that can easily be subdivided should the need arise. Gold and Silver Eagles mostly. Gold in 1/4 oz and 1 oz. have several 100 gram silver sheets that are subdivided and can be broken up into 1 gram squares.
(5) anywhere that is reputable to buy gold over the counter in Las Vegas or Phoenix?
Sorry no help, never looked while in LV.
Hope I’ve answered your questions.
Posted by: getagrip on July 5, 2017, 3:35 am
Posted by: Stephen C on July 7, 2017, 12:41 am
Posted by: getagrip on July 7, 2017, 1:27 am
Just a side note. While searching for places to buy metals I found quite a few in Arizona so no problem there. When I looked for places in LV I couldn’t find any in the whole state of Nevada. Now my curiosity has kicked in! Has me wondering if it is a Nevada law or? And if so, why? I will try to research it and if I come up with anything I will post it. Anyone have any ideas?
Posted by: getagrip on July 7, 2017, 1:38 am
Posted by: Preacher on July 7, 2017, 3:39 pm
When I sell on EBay, I give a 60 day money back guarantee, and ship with USPS. I use PayPal, so I get tracking for free. I have never had a package lost in the mail. If someone wants to return a package, which happens 1 out a 100 sales, no problem; I give an immediate refund once I receive the item, no questions asked.
The most expensive item I bought on EBay was a $12,000 dollar silver quarter from 1858, and was graded by NGC. I have never totaled my purchases and sales, but it’s six figures.
If you want to buy on EBay, there is no learning curve, and it is very secure if you use PayPal. Don’t send the seller checks, money orders, cash or wire, no matter how good the deal. Selling, however, takes time to know how to do it well.
To verify, go to your local dealer and get a price with tax for what you want to buy. Then go to EBay and get a price with shipping for the same items. My experience has been, for modern silver and gold, dealers add 10% or higher to the current market value per ounce plus sales tax. On EBay I pay no more than market value with shipping. The exceptions are US Mint silver or gold Eagles. Those cost 10% plus market value.
When you sell, most dealers want to give you 70% of the market value; my EBay sales are at or close to market value, graded and ungraded.
Let us know what you find out.
Posted by: getagrip on July 7, 2017, 4:11 pm
Posted by: sevenout on August 29, 2017, 4:19 am
The plus side of using a local dealer is cash transactions with no digital paper trail.
Since my motivation is in case SHTF, a home safe or a safety deposit box suits my storage need.