We certainly hope not. We need for them to call it a game of chance, luck or what ever they want to call it. If the casinos feel there is a skill (such card counting at BJ or dice control at a craps table) that can beat the game, they will change the game. We know that that with all the changes to BJ such as 6/5, good BJ games are becoming most difficult to beat.

As to the video slot machine games (other than VP), there is no skill so the casino built in house vig will prevail in the long run. If you actually learn and follow the suggestions for VP, that strategy for the different games can get you to a small advantage or bring the VP advantage to near even.

Doc C there are new games coming out that pit player against player and the player with the best hand eye reflexes seem to come out ahead have not seen them yet put there is a couple of them at planet Hollywood.

The news previewed them on the tv and interviewed the players.

They are skill based, I am sure that the house just takes a rake like in pai gow or poker on the winning hand and that is how they make there money.

The prize is awarded every time to a player.

BMan,

Read that there is a virtual golf game at MGM now. Player against player. They use various golf courses. You pay to play and casino takes a %. Players win prize money. You might want to check it out. Think that was the gist of the article I read.

I can’t see where the advantage for us would be in calling the game of Craps skill based. I might think it is but I don’t particularly want the casino to see it that way. Seems like the casinos that just consider it impossible to have skills are the ones where we get the least heat for our style of play. Would actually like to see MORE casinos that consider it impossible to get an advantage in Craps.